Stop the presses, an astrologer is wrong

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I know this will come as a shock to many of you, but celebrity astrologer Shelly Ackerman has made an incorrect prediction. What's kind of fun about it though, is that both the prediction and the evidence against it are currently up on MSNBC.

First, we have the prediction on this page:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10728297/

However when it comes to Angelina pregnancy rumors, our astrologer gets bad reception. “Inconclusive. I'm leaning toward no, not this minute,” Shelley said.

But then it's a short click over to:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10802316/from/RL.5/

Pitt's publicist, Cindy Guagenti, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that Jolie is pregnant and that Pitt is the father, confirming People magazine's earlier report.

I for one am very upset. If I can't believe a Hollywood astrology, what can I trust?
 
I was going to say that you should have written "...WHO can I trust?" since you are referring to a person rather than an object. But I think you had it right after all...! ;)
 
I was going to say that you should have written "...WHO can I trust?" since you are referring to a person rather than an object. But I think you had it right after all...! ;)

I originally did write "who," but then decided that was too courteous of a thing to do for a Hollywood astrologer. Especially one that makes mistakes... sheeeshh....
 
There are two scientific phenomena (there are more but for the purposes of this, two) that prove astrology is wrong.

The first is the Precession of the equinoxes. The earth's axis is not fixed, it moves ever so slowly. The result is that every 60 years or so the apparent positions of the stars in the sky are off by a day. Thus about every 2000 years or so the the zodiac is off by a full month. For example I am an Aries. That's supposed to mean that the constallation Aries was in the horizon when I was born. And it would have if I was born 2000 years ago, but when I was born Pisces was in the horizon. So am I an Aries as I have always been told or am I really Pisces? So, all the people that live their lives by the zodiac are a full sign off!!!

The second is the psychological phenomenon known as the Forer effect. When people are given a very general and catchall evaluation of themselves, most of us aren't objective in examining it and will accept it as an accurrate representation of ourselves. The common way to demonstrate this effect (and the method used by Forer) is to give a large number of people the same horoscope and see how they rate it. It's interesting how improbably identical 80% of us are!!!

Also, this is one of the few things to be skeptical about (unlike UFOs and bigfoot) that is entirely testable and it fails miserably. Why do people trust this crap?

Here's a do it yourself experiment, have a friend cut out a horoscope, separate the sign from the reading, and code them. Then you read the readings only and pick out which one you think describes you the most, go to the code and find the sign.

Astronomy will always be 100X more filled with wonder and mystery than astrology ever will.
 
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There are two scientific phenomena (there are more but for the purposes of this, two) that prove astrology is wrong.

The first is the Precession of the equinoxes. The earth's axis is not fixed, it moves ever so slowly. The result is that every 60 years or so the apparent positions of the stars in the sky are off by a day. Thus about every 2000 years or so the the zodiac is off by a full month. For example I am an Aries. That's supposed to mean that the constallation Aries was in the horizon when I was born. And it would have if I was born 2000 years ago, but when I was born Pisces was in the horizon. So am I an Aries as I have always been told or am I really Pisces? So, all the people that live their lives by the zodiac are a full sign off!!!

The second is the psychological phenomenon known as the Forer effect. When people are given a very general and catchall evaluation of themselves, most of us aren't objective in examining it and will accept it as an accurrate representation of ourselves. The common way to demonstrate this effect (and the method used by Forer) is to give a large number of people the same horoscope and see how they rate it. It's interesting how improbably identical 80% of us are!!!

Also, this is one of the few things to be skeptical about (unlike UFOs and bigfoot) that is entirely testable and it fails miserably. Why do people trust this crap?

Here's a do it yourself experiment, have a friend cut out a horoscope, separate the sign from the reading, and code them. Then you read the readings only and pick out which one you think describes you the most, go to the code and find the sign.

Astronomy will always be 100X more filled with wonder and mystery than astrology ever will.
In the Vedic Astrology thread, I made this very point.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1294382&postcount=168
but it's always good to reiterate it to show how idiotic these people are
 
I was going to say that you should have written "...WHO can I trust?" since you are referring to a person rather than an object. But I think you had it right after all...! ;)
Actually, it should be whom can I trust.
 

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