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Stop Online Piracy Act

Do you support SOPA?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 2.8%

  • No

    Votes: 126 88.7%

  • I use SOPA in my bath every Sunday night, whether I need it or not.

    Votes: 12 8.5%
  • Total voters
    142

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...or SOPA, is one of a couple of bills being considered in Congress that would provide legally enforceable methods for blocking access by US citizens to offending websites by preventing the DNS to resolve to the correct host based on IP address. Further, it allows ISPs to pro-actively block websites that they believe might be in violation of the law. Even further, this bill will make sites responsible for content it's users may post (sites like our own JREF Forum).

I am against this and I don't think it will pass First Amendment judicial review, but in the meantime, assuming the bill becomes law, it will squash new businesses and free discussion on the internet (again, like this forum).

Does anyone think this added regulation of the internet is a good idea?
 
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If you sit down and look at it entirely at face value, it seems like a reasonable idea.

Now, if you then account for well, reality, it becomes a monumentally terrible and quite scary idea. The wording is so vague it's nearly all-encompassing, and it's not even remotely being treated in an impartial manner. It's getting rammed through by lobbyists and politicians who have no idea how technology actually works. Not only is it ridiculous, it's not going to be effective. The same people they're supposedly trying to stop already know how to circumvent the blocking. It's going to become a pointless and expensive waste of government time and resources.

If passed, it sets a dangerous precedent that extends far beyond media piracy.
 
excaza said:
Not only is it ridiculous, it's not going to be effective. The same people they're supposedly trying to stop already know how to circumvent the blocking.
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I'm not the people they're trying to stop and I already know how to get around it. Who this is really going to hurt are the laymen and the sites who depend on user-generated content.

Ultimately, I don't think this will be put into law and, even if it does, it will be challenged and probably be found unconstitutional. What I'm concerned about is who and what will get squashed in the meantime.
 
Well, even if not everyone is explicitly against this bill, at least those who aren't are, at least, clean.
 
Upchurch said:
...or SOPA, is one of a couple of bills being considered in Congress that would provide legally enforceable methods for blocking access by US citizens to offending websites by preventing the DNS to resolve to the correct host based on IP address. Further, it allows ISPs to pro-actively block websites that they believe might be in violation of the law. Even further, this bill will make sites responsible for content it's users may post (sites like our own JREF Forum).

I am against this and I don't think it will pass First Amendment judicial review, but in the meantime, assuming the bill becomes law, it will squash new businesses and free discussion on the internet (again, like this forum).

Does anyone think this added regulation of the internet is a good idea?
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Glenn Beck has been going off about this for some time now. You don't agree with Glenn Beck, do you?
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It kind of looks like something that a large commercial user might use to put small competitors off the net.
 
well the US Congress and Senate of baboons show their true colors once again. I guess they want to emulate communist China afterall
 
Mike! said:
Glenn Beck has been going off about this for some time now. You don't agree with Glenn Beck, do you?
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If he's against it, yes. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

My hope right now is that Obama will veto the horror and it won't have enough votes to override the veto. If Obama actually signs this thing, he'll have finally lost my vote.



Eta: wait, lemme guess. He thinks this is a liberal plot to silence conservatives, doesn't he?
 
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therival58 said:
well the US Congress and Senate of baboons show their true colors once again. I guess they want to emulate communist China afterall
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If they were trying to emulate China they'd ignore piracy and counterfeiting and IP theft altogether.
 
Upchurch said:
My hope right now is that Obama will veto the horror and it won't have enough votes to override the veto. If Obama actually signs this thing, he'll have finally lost my vote.
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The bill is still buried in committee, odds are slim it will ever hit Obama's desk.
 
Upchurch said:
If he's against it, yes. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Somewhat consistent of him. He was against net neutrality because he seemed to think it would allow some sort of censorship on the internet.
 
elbe said:
Somewhat consistent of him. He was against net neutrality because he seemed to think it would allow some sort of censorship on the internet.
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Apply the same argument to everything and eventually one will be correct.



I see someone finally voted that they support it. Care to explain why?
 
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Upchurch said:
Apply the same argument to everything and eventually one will be correct.



I see someone finally voted that they support it. Care to explain why?
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I didn't know Dave Mustaine was a member here!
 
Anti-piracy bill meets Web-freedom backlash

Congress, signed off on by AOL, eBay, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Mozilla, Twitter, Yahoo and Zynga.

"We support the bills' stated goals -- providing additional enforcement tools to combat foreign 'rogue' websites that are dedicated to copyright infringement or counterfeiting," the letter reads. "Unfortunately, the bills as drafted would expose law-abiding U.S. Internet and technology companies to new uncertain liabilities, private rights of action and technology mandates that would require monitoring of websites.

"We are concerned that these measures pose a serious risk to our industry's continued track record of innovation and job-creation, as well as to our nation's cybersecurity."
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If this passes, expect extortion from the porn industry.

I'm serious.

They already track bittorrent users and prosecute when they can identify a target. And they send the offender a certified letter demanding damages, and you have to comply or have the fact that you illegally downloaded "Banging Trannies #7" made public.
 
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