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STOP ALLISON DUBOIS - Your comments please

Rasmus55

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My hat is off to Mr. Lancaster for his brilliant STOPSYLVIABROWNE.COM website. I believe much, much more of this is needed. In the U.S., the place to combat superstition and asshatery is in the market place of ideas, which Mr. Lancaster does perfectly.

Another psychic or "medium" as she calls herself who is fast gaining national popularity is Allison Dubois. She already has two books out and is the subject of the NBC TV show "Medium". I have read some of both of these books. I could not finish either, however, because the delivery and structure of each was so poor I simply could not force myself through another page. If, as Dubois claims, she wrote these books herself, I'm astounded that a respectable university actual awarded her a degree. Try reading them sometime; it is like reading the thoughts of a first grader just learning to write but in stream of consciousness. This should come as no surprise, however, because if you've ever heard her speak it becomes obvious that she is lacking in the intellect department.

In any case, Dubois continues to make the most outrageous claims regarding her "powers" and how she uses them. Amongst these claims, no doubt known to many of you, she prides herself on having solved missing person and murder cases for the Glendale Az. Police Dept, Texas Rangers, the US Border Patrol, and a host of other official agencies. She also claims she carries a gun out of the need to protect herself after "putting murderers on death row."

No official statement can be found anywhere to validate anything that Dubois has ever claimed regarding her alleged work with these agencies. In fact, Skeptico reported that the Glendale PD and the Texas Rangers specifically denied any involvement with Dubois in any case.

I think it is high time that another website was organized along the lines of Mr. Lancaster's excellent effort. This would be simply: STOPALLISONDUBOIS.COM. Its purpose would be to focus public attention on her claims of assistance to law enforcement and psychic ability. Given her proliferation on TV and widespread media coverage of late, and that rumor has it she has yet another silly, childish book coming out, it is important to put her powers and credibility into the perspective in which it belongs. Hopefullly, such an examination will force news reporting outlets, book publishers, and other credulous groups to think twice before sending her mountains of free cash and advertising her to the US public with an aura of validity.

Are there any dedicated skeptics who are willing to assist in this? Are there any who are willing to run this site? I am happy to provide financial assistance, although because of my travel schedule it is very difficult for me to run a website of this type. I appreciate your comments.
 
If anyone does decide to take it upon themselves to do this, I'd be able to provide Lexis Nexis research :D . I have a little bit of experience in that.
 
I couldn't do much, but I think it's a good idea. I've watched Medium, and as a TV show only it's not the worst I've seen, but the 'based on a true story' thing, irks me. My friend thinks they wouldn't say this if there weren't something to it, you know; no smoke without a fire-thinking. And the show has sure increased the credibility in Dubois, in my friend's eyes :( I've said to her that Dubois is a fake, but she says I have only read the skeptical side and not got a fair and just view on poor Dubois. *sigh*

I have no wish to argue with my friend about psychics, but I wish there was an objective site with hard facts to direct her to, like Lancaster's Browne-site. Here in Sweden Sylvia Browne is not well known, unless you often frequence forums like this :) She gets no coverage in Swedish news, and so on. Allison Dubois is much more well known though, thanks to Medium which is shown here too.
 
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Here is a thread you might be interested in.

Are there any dedicated skeptics who are willing to assist in this? Are there any who are willing to run this site? I am happy to provide financial assistance, although because of my travel schedule it is very difficult for me to run a website of this type. I appreciate your comments.

JoeTheJuggler has mentioned interest in it, perhaps PM him.

It would require much more research than SSB based on my premiliary analysis of the sources. I haven't ruled out helping, but it will be hardwork as the claims are spurious, and not made on a consistent show (as opposed to Browne-Montel).
 
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Go git er Rasmus. I can't really help, except to direct people to this forum. There need to be more sites like RSL's.
 
If you haven't already, you may want to ask Robert Lancaster if he's willing to share some or all of the source code for his website. That might make the job of setting up StopAllisonDubois go more quickly.
 
From my perspective in working with the families of the missing, Brian Ladd is more dangerous. He is quickly rising in the "ranks". Everywhere I look, someone says "Go to Brian....he's really accurate...." Families are flocking to him by the dozens. I don't see anyone encouraging seeking out AD.

http://www.briansprediction.com/

"As you may know, my dreams have made news headlines worldwide, and I have been referred to "the most accurate psychic on earth"...not sure about that, but I'm flattered so many people think so :) This site is for real, and takes about 10 minutes to learn about me and what I'm able to do and how I'm able to teach you to do the same. If you don't have time right now, please bookmark this site and come back later. There are over 10,000 pages on this site filled with information that's been helpful to million's of reader."

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From my perspective in working with the families of the missing, Brian Ladd is more dangerous. He is quickly rising in the "ranks". Everywhere I look, someone says "Go to Brian....he's really accurate...." Families are flocking to him by the dozens. I don't see anyone encouraging seeking out AD.

http://www.briansprediction.com/

"As you may know, my dreams have made news headlines worldwide, and I have been referred to "the most accurate psychic on earth"...not sure about that, but I'm flattered so many people think so :) This site is for real, and takes about 10 minutes to learn about me and what I'm able to do and how I'm able to teach you to do the same. If you don't have time right now, please bookmark this site and come back later. There are over 10,000 pages on this site filled with information that's been helpful to million's of reader."

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That's great to know. I've never even heard of this guy.
 
Yes, I'd be interested in a project like this. I don't mind doing the web work if others would be willing to do the research/write articles or whatever.

I very much like QG's idea of limiting it to claims of psychics to have helped police--maybe even focusing largely on Allison Dubois, but including others.

I have plenty of server space, and another domain name is cheap enough (I don't mind footing that minor bill).
 
Claus and Kelly were at one time planning www.PsychicPredators.com, but I think Kelly became too busy to follow up on it.

As for donating the source code from the SSB site, I would highly recommend that whoever does this project does NOT use the SSB source code. They would be much better off with a database-based system, which is what I hope to one day convert the SSB site to.

If whoever maintains it is not versed in HTML, I would suggest finding an off-the-shelf package to use. It would be much more user-friendly than what I deal with.

As far as a one-person focus (Dubois) vs. a multi-person focus (Police Psychics - by the way, I would suggest the term "psychic detectives" instead), they both have their pros and cons.

Before I started the SSB site (when the StopKaz site was winding down), I was leaning more towards a multi-person site (with sections on psychics, faith healers, quacks, etc). When I asked for the advice of the denizens of JREF, they overwhelmingly suggested a single-person focus, as it had seemed to work well with Kaz.

At this point I am glad I took their advice, as there aren't enough hours in the day to keep up with what I'd like to be writing about Browne, let alone multiple others.

Then again, it seems like many others here are volunteering their help, so perhaps a multi-focus site wouldn't be as daunting a task as it would otherwise.

If you do go with a single-focus, you might consider simply StopAllison or StopDubois, to avoid the minor hassles I've had due to Browne trademarking her full name.
 
Claus and Kelly were at one time planning www.PsychicPredators.com, but I think Kelly became too busy to follow up on it.

As far as a one-person focus (Dubois) vs. a multi-person focus (Police Psychics - by the way, I would suggest the term "psychic detectives" instead), they both have their pros and cons.

Is Kelly still interested in taking part?

As for the name, "psychic detectives" is likely trademarked and might cause confusion if the website focuses on people not on that tv show.
 
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Actually, I now have the data for all the planned pages for that site. I know that Fowlsound was still willing to host it and originally Claus was the webmaster. If Claus is still interested, I can resend him all the original data, plus the new data, and we would be ready to roll as soon as the two of them do whatever they'd need to do on their ends.

I will be gone to San Diego in the morning, so I won't be able to get back to this until Wednesday night.
 
Actually, I now have the data for all the planned pages for that site. I know that Fowlsound was still willing to host it and originally Claus was the webmaster. If Claus is still interested, I can resend him all the original data, plus the new data, and we would be ready to roll as soon as the two of them do whatever they'd need to do on their ends.

I will be gone to San Diego in the morning, so I won't be able to get back to this until Wednesday night.


I appreciate all the comments so far. There is much on Dubois it appears already on the web disputing her BS. Re-thinking the idea, I very much like the idea of a "psychicpredators.com" site. An ambitious idea but one that seems very worthwhile. Would you or the person who owns that site be interested in having partners or associates? It might be worthwhile to form a non-profit corporation from amongst those of us with interest in such things. The purpose would be education and tax exempt status would allow us to raise money, which we would then use to investigate these absurd claims and sponsor educational debates/seminars/etc. What do you think?
 

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