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Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan debunking NIST (video)

I see nut cases, they do not even know they are nut cases; this is Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan. Two idiots. Why does Steven Jones make me so mad? Is it his old thermite stuff? Is it how dumb he is on the collapse models? How come I can calculate the energy of failure and come up with times similar to what we saw on 9/11, and Jones can not?

Kevin Ryan said the core was built first! No Kevin, the core and the exterior had to be built the same time. The video itself debunks the Kevin, it is funny stuff! The core can not stand by itself. The core had to have the exterior to stand. Kevin is so dumb, only the video is dumber.

Why did I watch those idiots? Who gave these guys passing grades?

Do these guys know they are dumb as dirt on 9/11? If they only had some facts. A failed physics guy on Cold Fusion, a water chemist, do not make experts at 9/11. They can not even find errors in work done on 9/11. Not one fact on 9/11 from Jones or the water guy.
 
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beachnut said:
I see nut cases, they do not even know they are nut cases; this is Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan. Two idiots. Why does Steven Jones make me so mad? Is it his old thermite stuff? Is it how dumb he is on the collapse models? How come I can calculate the energy of failure and come up with times similar to what we saw on 9/11, and Jones can not?

Kevin Ryan said the core was built first! No Kevin, the core and the exterior had to be built the same time. The video itself debunks the Kevin, it is funny stuff! The core can not stand by itself. The core had to have the exterior to stand. Kevin is so dumb, only the video is dumber.

Why did I watch those idiots? Who gave these guys passing grades?

Do these guys know they are dumb as dirt on 9/11? If they only had some facts. A failed physics guy on Cold Fusion, a water chemist, do not make experts at 9/11. They can not even find errors in work done on 9/11. Not one fact on 9/11 from Jones or the water guy.
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Who is this clown?
 
scooby said:
Who is this clown?
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Two clowns, actually. Jones is a disgraced physicist who mistakes faith and politics for science, and Ryan is a disgraced chemist who compounds ignorance with lies.
 
... and here I thought they were actually going to debunk the NIST report... silly me.

My favorite part: "They did an experiment, which is a good thing". As opposed to what Jones has done, which is to simply look for confirming evidence and ignore all plausible explanations and contradictory evidence. Scientific method be damned.
 
Kameelyun, perhaps you could provide some commentary with your video. For instance, what arguments did you find particularly strong?
 
scooby said:
Who is this clown?
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Show me a calculation that the truth movement has that is correct. Can you even find one fact between Jones and waterboy?

Why are truth movement people not able to present facts? Did you even watch the video of junk. How many errors can you find?

Does any truth movement person listen to Jones? Jones talks about other people's calculations. Jones is a so call expert why is he incapable of doing his own numbers? I can tell you if he does the numbers right he knows he is telling lies.

Yes anyone can check the work of the truth movement and find errors if one is not lazy. The truth movement work is wrong.

Example one: Ross is truther woo who says the towers could not fall due to lack of energy from the initial failure in the towers. He means it would not completely collapse. He said there was 390 MJ short on the energy. But I checked his stuff and found him in error by 20 percent the other direction. My numbers are confirmed by two things. The towers fell. I am right. Darn I hate being right so I checked with Greening.

Greening checks in with
"The error in the determination of the kinetic energy removes 206 MJ from The error in the determination of the kinetic energy removes 206 MJ from Ross’ calculation of the energy losses during the first impact of the upper section of WTC 1. The correction of the overestimation of the energy needed to pulverize the WTC 1 concrete, which Ross includes for the impacted and impacting floors, removes 2 times 176 MJ or an additional 352 MJ from Ross’ energy deficit. Our revision to the elastic deflection term and the elastic strain energy remove 864 MJ and 95 MJ, respectively, from Ross’ energy deficit. Thus we need to correct Ross’ claimed energy deficit of −390 MJ by + 1517 MJ giving an energy excess of +1127 MJ, confirming that a gravity driven collapse of WTC 1 was in fact sustainable. "
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So you can read about Ross' work http://www.journalof911studies.org/articles/Journal_5_PTransferRoss.pdf
If you have the capability you too could find his errors. Maybe you mean this clown?

You could check out Greening's work http://www.journalof911studies.org/articles/Article_2_Greening.pdf , better get it before the Scholars decide to censor things.

So if you need these papers I can email them to you. If you have research capabilities you can find even more papers about 9/11 that are not biased by hate or just wanting to make money off of people who want to believe lies. (hint, see the references)

Jones talks about things but does not have a clue. The video is just junk and proves beyond a shadow of doubt Jones and waterboy are dolts when it comes to 9/11. Or they are just being liars so they can profit from the CT circuit!

Fraudulent liars or dolts? What do you think?
 
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