SPR Library is now On-Line

[SteveGrenard]

http://www.spr.ac.uk/index.php3?page=onlinelibrary



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SPR ONLINE LIBRARY

"You can now view and search the full text of all of
the Journals and Proceedings published by the Society
for Psychical Research. This service is available free
of charge to all members. "

There is more information on this at the above website.

 

[TLN]

These volumes span 120 years and represent some 60,000
pages of material.

And in all that Steve, have they generated one replicateable experiment?

Can I see it please?

 

[T'ai Chi]

Re: Re: SPR Library is now On-Line

And in all that Steve, have they generated one replicateable experiment?

Can I see it please?

It would help if you weren't a lazy researcher.

Why not jus go and look for yourself? SteveG isn't (at least not in this thread) making the claim that there is such experiments.

 

[TLN]

It would help if you weren't a lazy researcher.

Nonsense. How on Earth do you know what I've researched? Psychic?

My diligence in research isn't going to produce the experiment. It's either there, or it isn't.

Why not jus go and look for yourself?

I have, a great deal in fact. It's not there. Can you point it out, yes or no? May I see it please?

SteveG isn't (at least not in this thread) making the claim that there is such experiments.

If it's not scientific evidence, who cares? Why post anything unless it supports all the things Steve would love to be true?

Just show me the science that supports the claims, any of the claims. I'm tired of all the useless talk and cut-and-paste posts people don't even understand.

If you asked me for proof that the Earth is round I could provide you with a simple experiment to run using only simple tools. You could prove it to yourself and anyone else you wanted to that the Earth was in fact round.

I just want to see the experiments that prove the paranormal claims people would like to be true, any of the claims. Anything else is a waste of time. Talking about John Edward's show or NDA or seminars is all a complete waste of time (yes, one I acknowledge I participate in). Until he's in a lab performing replicating experiments we'll never know for sure, period. It could go either way.

Show me the money or quit wasting my time on Edward, psi, NDEs, precognition, the loch ness monster, or any of this other nonsense.

Just show me.

 

[Lord Kenneth]

Don't waste your time on Whodini. He's just a useless troll.

 

[T'ai Chi]

It's not there. Can you point it out, yes or no? May I see it please?

I never said I could.

It's not there, ok, fine. Then why are you asking to see something that is not there? That's fun-E!

Why post anything unless it supports all the things Steve would love to be true?

I don't know. I'd say ask Steve and see what he says.

Just show me the science that supports the claims, any of the claims. I'm tired of all the useless talk and cut-and-paste posts people don't even understand.

What claims? Could you be more specific? List maybe 10 of their supposed claims?

I just want to see the experiments that prove the paranormal claims people would like to be true, any of the claims.

How about random number generator experiments?

Until he's in a lab performing replicating experiments we'll never know for sure, period.

I agree.

Show me the money or quit wasting my time on Edward, psi, NDEs, precognition, the loch ness monster, or any of this other nonsense.

Just show me.

Glad people are in it just to show you.

 

[Lord Kenneth]

Is Whodini really an idiot, or is he trolling for kicks? I can't believe anyone could be that dense.

 

[T'ai Chi]

He's just a useless troll.

Yeah, it is better to post one-liner glib comments. You're doing good so far.

Anyway, Lord Kenneth, come over to the 'math/stat questions for T'ai Chi' thread in the Science section. It is fun, and we don't troll over there.

 

[Lord Kenneth]

I would engage you if you weren't an idiot and a troll to boot.

But, alas all you deserve is scorn. If you were a begger on the street I would spit in your donation cup.

 

[T'ai Chi]

I would engage you if you weren't an idiot and a troll to boot.

But, alas all you deserve is scorn. If you were a begger on the street I would spit in your donation cup.

Is there a reason why you are being rude to me?

Just put me on ignore.

I'll keep reporting your posts as harassment. No problem there.

 

[T'ai Chi]

Just show me the science that supports the claims, any of the claims. I'm tired of all the useless talk and cut-and-paste posts people don't even understand.

Um, could you demonstrate for us all how what Steve posted has anything to do with making a claim? That would be great.

Simply associating Steve's non-claim posts with any claims he posted in the past is not good enough (not good at all, really).

 

[Ersby]

You can now view and search the full text of all of
the Journals and Proceedings published by the Society
for Psychical Research.

Best news I've had all day (even if it is only 8.40 here). Thanks for the heads up, Steve.

 

[hal bidlack]

Thread reported

This thread has been reported, and so I have read it. The complaint is that LK is harassing TC. I find that this thread contains silly squabbling back and forth, but no harassment.

Just stop it, you guys, this is getting old, and I'm tired of these reports.

 

[Clancie]

Thanks for the resource, Steve. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have available about Mrs. Piper.

Re: Lord Kenneth

Posted by Lord Kenneth to T'ai Chi

1st post: "Don't waste your time on Whodini. He's just a useless troll."

2nd post: "Is Whodini really an idiot, or is he trolling for kicks? I can't believe anyone could be that dense.

3rd post: "I would engage you if you weren't an idiot and a troll to boot.

But, alas all you deserve is scorn. If you were a begger on the street I would spit in your donation cup."

All this, plus starting a totally pointless thread (unless, of course, the point is just baiting someone) about the same thing yesterday.

These comments--with absolutely nothing to do with the topic whatsoever--are, at best, extremely immature, Kenneth.

Posted by hal bidlack

Just stop it, you guys, this is getting old, and I'm tired of these reports.

Well, I don't see what T'ai Chi has done except try to ignore Kenneth's repeated baiting.

And, Kenneth, Hal is being very very kind to you to let you continue with this barage of unprovoked insults here and other threads, imo.

edited to add: I don't see any difference between what you're doing with T'ai Chi (and have done to me in the past), and what nFactor got suspended for for doing to you, frankly.

 

[Clancie]

Okay, last thing OT, but re: Lord Kenneth and T'ai Chi....since its already inappropriately on this thread.

Why was LK's thread to Tai Chi that he started here yesterday (" Why does Whodini (Tai Chi) feel the need to plug in his supposed education?") moved to "Flame Wars" without the usual administrative annotation?

There's a pattern of behavior on LK's part that shouldn't just be hidden when other people are held accountable for doing the exact same thing.

 

[CFLarsen]

Clancie,

If you don't approve of squabbling, then you should refrain from deranging this thread yourself.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

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Why post anything unless it supports all the things Steve would love to be true?

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I don't know. I'd say ask Steve and see what he says.

That was what he had done, when you decided to jump in.. And answer for him..

 

[TLN]

That was what he had done, when you decided to jump in.. And answer for him..

Exactly. TC, stick to the conversations you started, but won't finish.

 

[SteveGrenard]

Well in general terms I think we would all "LOVE" for a lot of things paranormal to be true but in reality they are not. I hope that answers that assertion.

Some of you give short shrift to the SPR without ever having become familiar with their work, their journal, their library and their proceedings. They are open to publication, peer reviewed, of any study involving the paranormal regardless of whether or not the conclusion proves or disproves the claims or hypotheses offered. Thus there are many authors who have done experiments which didnt prove anything or which disproved other things; these include such persons as Richard Wiseman and Susan Blackmore.
Even a letter James Randi wrote about Matthew Manning was featured in an issue recently. There is no agenda that everything published in this journal has to be overwhelmingly in favor of a particular paranormal hypothesis. I am sure if Randi and a collaborator were one day to decide to write up his experiments vis a vis the Challenge in a manner consistent with a scientific paper they would be more than happy to publish such a contribution as well. In fact a whole slew of these tests might even merit a separate Proceedings volume. Of course I am not holding my breath.

 

[Lord Kenneth]

Re: Thread reported

This thread has been reported, and so I have read it. The complaint is that LK is harassing TC. I find that this thread contains silly squabbling back and forth, but no harassment.

Just stop it, you guys, this is getting old, and I'm tired of these reports.

So calling someone out on trolling is harassment? LOL.