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Spotted Owls Endangered by Logging or Nature?

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Spotted Owls Endangered by Logging or Nature?

Fox News Story...

Spotted Owls Endangered by Logging or Nature?


"Natural systems are pretty unpredictable,” Eric Forsman, a U.S. forest service biologist, said. “When you set about trying to manage a particular species there are lots of things that can happen that are unplanned."


Maybe it's Global Warming.... ?
 
Re: Spotted Owls Endangered by Logging or Nature?

Diogenes said:
Fox News Story...

Spotted Owls Endangered by Logging or Nature?

Maybe it's Global Warming.... ?

Maybe a little of both?

Assuming you don't want to see the obliteration of the Spotted Owl, doesn't it make some sense to avoid doing the things you know causes harm to a species?

Why is this news now? A new "study"?

I smell a PR news release.

But industry experts say a second timber war is unlikely because wood is increasingly being imported from countries with cheap labor and less environmental protections -- the types of protections that activists promised would save the spotted owl.

Emphasis mine. The closing line of the article. That's fair and balanced.

At least the reporter semi-coherently quoted someone from the Audubon Society.
 
Best solution to the problem is to consider it over a hearty meal.


Thursday's Dish: Spotted Owl with Sweet Garlic, Melted Onions, Sour Orange
Restaurant: Rumi Supper Club
Chef: J.D. Harris

FeedRoom


Scrumptious Spotted Owl Dish





3 pounds Spotted Owl
½ cup whole garlic cloves, peeled
1 cup + 3 tablespoons olive oil
1 bunch flat-leaf parsley
Zest of 1 orange
Zest of 1 lime
1 pound yuca, peeled
2 Spanish onions, thinly sliced
16 ounces sour orange juice
1 cup rich Spotted Owl stock

Cut the Spotted Owl in half and de-bone. Place the garlic in ¼ cup of the oil and sauté until tender. When the garlic is cool, puree half of it with the parsley, orange zest, lime zest, and the remaining ¾ cup of oil. Rub the garlic mixture onto the Spotted Owl and marinate for 1 day in the refrigerator.

Cook the yuca in salted water until tender, and drain. Slowly cook the onions with a little water until soft. Reserve.

Bake the Spotted Owl at 350 F for 45 minutes, until cooked through and the juices run clear when pierced with a fork. Sauté the yuca in the remaining three tablespoons olive oil until crispy. Add the onions and the reserved garlic.

Drain the yuca mixture well and place on the plate with the Spotted Owl .

Cover with the orange mixture.
 
Although I am not particulary fond of seeing any species go extinct, I think we need to realize that it is not the single species but the diversity of species that's important.

Mama Nature will probably survive without the spotted owl, or the baby seals, or whatever the poster-animal of the times is. But if the number of species go down, we are in deep crapola: It is the diversity of species that is important, not just one or two.

Up until we began to over-exploit this planet, the number of species were on the rise. Today, it's decreasing. Big problem. Not just for the species in question, but for us, Homo Sapiens.

I am still waiting to see a campaign to save the worm of a particular species. It seems that you have to have Bambi eyes or be cuddly, in order to be saved from extinction.

Sad.
 
IMO spotted owl is best served with sea turtle, bengal tiger and black rhino. :D
 
Ed said:
Best solution to the problem is to consider it over a hearty meal.


Thursday's Dish: Spotted Owl with Sweet Garlic, Melted Onions, Sour Orange
Restaurant: Rumi Supper Club
Chef: J.D. Harris

(snip)

I smell a cut+paste... wait, no, it's the garlic.
 
Tony said:
IMO spotted owl is best served with sea turtle, bengal tiger and black rhino. :D

I know where you can get a white Bengal, cheap.
 
Thursday's Dish: Bald Eagle with Sweet Garlic, Melted Onions, Sour Orange
Restaurant: Rumi Supper Club
Chef: J.D. Harris

FeedRoom


Scrumptious Bald Eagle Dish





3 pounds Bald Eagle
½ cup whole garlic cloves, peeled
1 cup + 3 tablespoons olive oil
1 bunch flat-leaf parsley
Zest of 1 orange
Zest of 1 lime
1 pound yuca, peeled
2 Spanish onions, thinly sliced
16 ounces sour orange juice
1 cup rich Bald Eagle stock

Cut the Bald Eagle in half and de-bone. Place the garlic in ¼ cup of the oil and sauté until tender. When the garlic is cool, puree half of it with the parsley, orange zest, lime zest, and the remaining ¾ cup of oil. Rub the garlic mixture onto the Bald Eagle and marinate for 1 day in the refrigerator.

Cook the yuca in salted water until tender, and drain. Slowly cook the onions with a little water until soft. Reserve.

Bake the Bald Eagle at 350 F for 45 minutes, until cooked through and the juices run clear when pierced with a fork. Sauté the yuca in the remaining three tablespoons olive oil until crispy. Add the onions and the reserved garlic.

Drain the yuca mixture well and place on the plate with the Bald Eagle.

Cover with the orange mixture.
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Hey this is fun! It's just a stupid bird we can make fun of right?
 
Hand Bent Spoon said:
Why is a diversity of species important, and what is it important to?

Good question.

The more species we have, the better chance of more species surviving radical - or even gradual - changes in the environment. An increasing number of species (higher diversity) makes it more likely that life will survive.

Read more here:

Biodiversity Conservation Network

Biodiversity Project
 
I have nothing to do with the loss of owl. If they come round me, they deserve to get torched.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Thursday's Dish: Bald Eagle with Sweet Garlic, Melted Onions, Sour Orange...

No no no no man. A bald eagle is big. Think steaks and chops.

It's all there in the Ahazred Gastronomique. :p
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Thursday's Dish: Bald Eagle with Sweet Garlic, Melted Onions, Sour Orange
Restaurant: Rumi Supper Club
Chef: J.D. Harris

FeedRoom


Scrumptious Bald Eagle Dish





3 pounds Bald Eagle
½ cup whole garlic cloves, peeled
1 cup + 3 tablespoons olive oil
1 bunch flat-leaf parsley
Zest of 1 orange
Zest of 1 lime
1 pound yuca, peeled
2 Spanish onions, thinly sliced
16 ounces sour orange juice
1 cup rich Bald Eagle stock

Cut the Bald Eagle in half and de-bone. Place the garlic in ¼ cup of the oil and sauté until tender. When the garlic is cool, puree half of it with the parsley, orange zest, lime zest, and the remaining ¾ cup of oil. Rub the garlic mixture onto the Bald Eagle and marinate for 1 day in the refrigerator.

Cook the yuca in salted water until tender, and drain. Slowly cook the onions with a little water until soft. Reserve.

Bake the Bald Eagle at 350 F for 45 minutes, until cooked through and the juices run clear when pierced with a fork. Sauté the yuca in the remaining three tablespoons olive oil until crispy. Add the onions and the reserved garlic.

Drain the yuca mixture well and place on the plate with the Bald Eagle.

Cover with the orange mixture.
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Hey this is fun! It's just a stupid bird we can make fun of right?

Fun tip: Roast an entire Bald Eagle (approx 25 lbs. and use the leftovers for Bald Eagle salad. Just enough to feed a soccer team:D
 
CFLarsen said:


Good question.

The more species we have, the better chance of more species surviving radical - or even gradual - changes in the environment. An increasing number of species (higher diversity) makes it more likely that life will survive.

Read more here:

Biodiversity Conservation Network

Biodiversity Project

Why should they survive? Seems they have demonstrated that they cannot adapt. How does diversity help moi, homo sapiens? It sounds like sorta a kumbia reason. At what poit does keeping critters alive become a collection, with no other purpose than to stroke our egos?
 
Another important point is that determination of a genus or species is a matter of human categorization and definition.

We can continue defining sub-species, and sub-sub-species, etc., on the basis of the most arcane and trivial distinctions (i. e., this group of pigeons has a yellow rather than orange beak).

The same subjectivity applies to "eco-system" and "habitat" definition. We can arbitrarily define such "systems" and "habitats" around anything at all (i. e., "this pigeon is native only to the 'eco-system' in Avatar's backyard"), and expand it geographically by whim (i. e., "we need to establish a ten-square-mile protective buffer zone for the pigeon's habitat around Avatar's backyard").

By this subjective means, those who want to stop human activity ANYWHERE can simply, arbitrarily define some new "threatened species" and "eco-system" or "habitat," to their hearts' content, to wit:

"WE FACE A THREAT TO OUR BIODIVERSITY. Due to [fill in the hated human activity], we're about to lose the Yellow-Beaked Ruffle-Feathered Chicago-Based Pigeon...leaving an unnatural 'imbalance' in the greater Chicago 'eco-system,' with a corresponding over-population of ORANGE-Beaked Ruffle-Feathered Chicago-Based Pigeons!

"THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS, WHICH THREATENS THE WHOLE DELICATE GLOBAL 'WEB OF LIFE'! WE MUST DO SOMETHING!

"Therefore, to protect the threatened [habitat, species, eco-system], we must immediately halt all [fill in your most disliked human activity]. So today, the [Sierra Club, Wilderness Society, EPA, National Park Service, or your preferred green entity] announces a [lawsuit, new regulation, tax, restraining order, or your other preferred means of coercion] in order to [remove, excise, curtail, slow, halt, obliterate, etc.] any trace of [human presence, or some nefarious human activity].

[Typical afterword for fundraising letters:]

"To help us fight this dire planetary threat, please send your highest donation to [name of green entity]. Thank you!

"(Signed),

"[Name of scientifically ignorant celebrity desiring the public cachet of moral significance]"

It's on the basis of this arbitrary criteria that the Endangered Species Act, and government regs about insuring "biodiversity" and "eco-systems," are being used to shut down businesses like farming, ranching, and logging, to confiscate private property, to order people to stop moving dirt in their own yards, etc., etc.

When are people going to wise up to the fact that they are being played for suckers? That this entire green enterprise is nothing more than a scam to grab power and control over everyone's lives and property?
 
Very funny recipes!

There is no real reason to preserve biodiversity except for one. We don't want to crash the ecosystem, the more diverse, the more ability it has to survive.

The problem is not the death of a single species, the issue is that we are taking out most of the eco system until it can't function.

But there is really no reason to preserve other species, just a being nice kind of thing.

And really the tree companies are horrible managers of our natural resources, but this is capitalism, so it doesn't really matter.
 

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