Speaking of John Lennon

billydkid

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It seems to me it was in John's last interview in Playboy where the interviewer noted the fact that both he and Yoko smoked liked smokestacks. John responded that they were macrobiotists (or something similar) and didn't believe that smoking was bad for you. I think it is an example of the way that people gravitate towards belief systems that support what they want to believe.
 
It appears that John also believed in UFOs. Well, at least that's what Uri Geller says :rolleyes:

http://ufocasebook.com/lennon.html
Despite Lennon's many wacky ideas, I haven't come across any reference other than Uri Geller's that verifies this.

Lennon was a prankster, though, and I can easily imagine(!) that he would pull a fast one on someone as Uri Geller.

Incidentally, the thingie is a Super Ellipsoid, invented by Danish inventor/poet Piet Hein.

Full story here.

Dann later gave his own Super Ellipsoid to Randi. :)
 
Despite Lennon's many wacky ideas, I haven't come across any reference other than Uri Geller's that verifies this.

Lennon was a prankster, though, and I can easily imagine(!) that he would pull a fast one on someone as Uri Geller.

Incidentally, the thingie is a Super Ellipsoid, invented by Danish inventor/poet Piet Hein.

Full story here.

Dann later gave his own Super Ellipsoid to Randi. :)
Interesting. I had missed Randi talking about it.
 
I have no respect whatsoever for entertainers that instruct us mere mortals, for example, to 'Imagine no possesions' when they clearly have very many.

Likewise multi-millionaires with tax havens who propose that the UK Government should spend more on aid also get my contempt.

My tuppence-worth over with, apologies if it was a derail.
 
I have no respect whatsoever for entertainers that instruct us mere mortals, for example, to 'Imagine no possesions' when they clearly have very many.

Likewise multi-millionaires with tax havens who propose that the UK Government should spend more on aid also get my contempt.

My tuppence-worth over with, apologies if it was a derail.

But it's exactly those people who have the power to make their voice heard. Lennon has inspired millions of people. Who else could make them "imagine no possesions" ? Skeptically speaking, giving away all his possesions might make him more honest to our eyes but would definitely have less impact in the world. I'd rather judge by the result, not by the intentions.

Among the many rich and famous people who say "fook everything" and spend their lives between the Maldives and Tahiti, I much prefer the few who feel obliged to offer something to the rest of the world - no matter how pretentious and vain they may be. I don't want them to lose their power in order to convince me about their honesty. That would make them as weak as most of the powerless ones who are full of ideals and good intentions exactly because they are so powerless.
 
But it's exactly those people who have the power to make their voice heard. Lennon has inspired millions of people. Who else could make them "imagine no possesions" ? Skeptically speaking, giving away all his possesions might make him more honest to our eyes but would definitely have less impact in the world. I'd rather judge by the result, not by the intentions.

Among the many rich and famous people who say "fook everything" and spend their lives between the Maldives and Tahiti, I much prefer the few who feel obliged to offer something to the rest of the world - no matter how pretentious and vain they may be. I don't want them to lose their power in order to convince me about their honesty. That would make them as weak as most of the powerless ones who are full of ideals and good intentions exactly because they are so powerless.
Interesting perspective. I don't share it but I'll give you credit for the argument.

I have a good attitude towards the memory of Lennon. I found him honest, sincere in his intentions and enormously talented. I personally don't find the song Imagine to be hypocritical because I think he was simply waxing philosophically and not advocating everyone else give up what he was unwilling to give up. "Can't buy me love" is another great example.

That being said, there are rich people who for political or social reasons exploit poor people. I don't excuse them because they are doing "something". Intentions won't feed or clothe people and if the intention is too simply placate one's conscience then I would rather that person say "fook everything" and run off on vacation.

Limousine liberal is a pejorative American political term for a wealthy liberal person who expresses a deep concern for the poor, but is not actually directly engaged with them on a day to day basis. The term can also carry the connotation of expressing concern for the poor but not spending any considerable portion of one's wealth to help them.

The term was coined by 1969 Democratic New York City mayoral hopeful Mario Procaccino to describe Mayor John Lindsay and his wealthy Manhattan backers. It carried an implicit accusation that they were insulated from all negative consequences of their programs intended to benefit the poor, and that ill consequences would be borne in the main by those in the lower class who were not so poor as to be beneficiaries. In particular, Procaccino criticized Lindsay for favoring unemployed blacks over working-class whites.

In the 1970s, the term was applied to wealthy liberal supporters of open-housing and school busing. In Boston, Massachusetts, supporters of busing, such as Senator Edward Kennedy and Judge Arthur Garrity, both sent their children to private schools or lived in affluent suburbs. To some South Boston residents, Garrity's support of a plan that "integrated" their children with blacks and his apparent unwillingness to do the same with his own children, seemed like hypocrisy.
 
It is an interesting question of metaphysics as to whether John Lennon would still be as well loved had his life not been tragically terminated prematurely. The same could be asked of JFK or Elvis.

An unfortunate reality is that death is often great publicity for a celebrity.
 
It is an interesting question of metaphysics as to whether John Lennon would still be as well loved had his life not been tragically terminated prematurely. The same could be asked of JFK or Elvis.

An unfortunate reality is that death is often great publicity for a celebrity.

Just my opinion but:

JFK would probably have stayed very popular since the press adored him. In the pre Internet days there would really be no one to challange the prevaling opinion.

Elvis had really already had his best years long before he died. Unless some of the tabloid details of his life somehow turned people against him I think his popularity would have stayed about the same.

Lennon would be equal to about what McCartney is today. An old Icon worshipped by the boomers.

IMHO had Kurt Cobain lived Nirvana would have rivaled the Beatles for long term popularity and influence on popular music.
 

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