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Ed Speaking in tongues

As a linguist with experience in data gathering for bilingual research, I would record it, and attempt to enlist her help in analyzing the grammatical structure and phonological traits of the words she is using. I have a feeling she would have no interest, when it becomes clear that there is none, and that she is just making up nonsense sounds as she goes.

Religion is just about make believe. Anyone who votes for a politician who is this nuts deserves just what they get.
 
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It wasn't just the gibberish. The "song" had no tonal center...it was just as fabricated as the "lyrics".

I thought the 'rap' section sounded as though she was spittin' rhymes for satan himself.:rolleyes:
 
It's a fascinating phenomenon, which I experienced first hand when I was a churchgoer.

It's supposed to be the native language of angels - which is why it doesn't submit to ordinary mortal linguistic analysis. Also, it contradicts what is said about the gift of tongues in the book of Acts. You're supposed to be able to speak in your own language and people hearing will hear your words in their native language. This is changed to mean that you can speak in this language of heaven, and those listening are given the gift to interpret the "prophecy" that you speak.

It's all very weird and confusing for someone who hasn't experienced it.
 
Isnt it the Pentecostals that speak in tongues?
When they speak in tongues, say at a gathering, do all the participants say the same gibberish-sounding stuff? If so, that be remarkable on those merits alone.
But if they all were uttering different sounding stuff, wouldnt that seem contrived?.
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However. One could argue that in our own English language, that if we were allowed to say individual prayers at the same time...to some outsider not familiar with English, that too would sound like a bunch of gobbletygook.
However, again. One thing would sound similar; the dialect. Similar to say if i heard one Chinaman speak, then another...even though they said different things...i could deduce they were speaking the same language.
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Can anything similar be said for those `speaking in tongues`? (Or toungues? Toungues? Today i shouveled snouw off a roaud.)
 
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However, again. One thing would sound similar; the dialect. Similar to say if i heard one Chinaman speak, then another...even though they said different things...i could deduce they were speaking the same language.
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Can anything similar be said for those `speaking in tongues`? (Or toungues? Toungues? Today i shouveled snouw off a roaud.)
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That would be an interesting experiment. I can tell Chinese from Vietnamese and Thai (sometimes even northern dialect from that of Bangkok), but Cambodian and Laotian get a little bit difficult to distinguish, given the test you suggest. Japanese and Korean are very different to my ear. I don't speak any of those fluently. I wonder if someone who knows no Spanish or Italian could pick spoken samples from speakers of each consistently. I don't know.

As for glossolalia (speaking in tongues). My own guess as to syntactic structure, from researching the syntax and morphology of quite a few languages would have been pretty much as stated below, not a language, just fooling around:

Samarin found that the resemblance to human language was merely on the surface and so concluded that glossolalia is "only a facade of language".[10] He reached this conclusion because the syllable string did not form words, the stream of speech was not internally organized, and – most importantly of all – there was no systematic relationship between units of speech and concepts. Humans use language to communicate but glossolalia does not.

Therefore he concluded that glossolalia is not "a specimen of human language because it is neither internally organized nor systematically related to the world man perceives".[10] On the basis of his linguistic analysis, Samarin defined Pentecostal glossolalia as "meaningless but phonologically structured human utterance, believed by the speaker to be a real language but bearing no systematic resemblance to any natural language, living or dead".[11]
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I used to do a rain dance using fake Indian chants, similar to this sort of thing. It worked about 50% of the time.:D
 
Iamme said:
Isnt it the Pentecostals that speak in tongues?
When they speak in tongues, say at a gathering, do all the participants say the same gibberish-sounding stuff? If so, that be remarkable on those merits alone.
But if they all were uttering different sounding stuff, wouldnt that seem contrived?.
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It's all different - they're all making up their own "words", but it all sounds similar. There's a groupthink at work that means they all speak along similar lines.

But where I'd say "balalalamapatalawalbalamu", someone else might say "labalanarabarammadalara". They're different, but they sound basically the same. And both carry an equal amount of meaning.
 
Olowkow, i know a 62 year old lady that can speak fluent faux Hmongese. She did it out a 2nd floor window and a Hmong guy walking down the sidewalk turned around and tried to see where it was coming from. I was with her and howled. Lol
 
arthwollipot, i see what you mean there. Can they understand each other?
 
arthwollipot said:
It's supposed to be the native language of angels - which is why it doesn't submit to ordinary mortal linguistic analysis. Also, it contradicts what is said about the gift of tongues in the book of Acts. You're supposed to be able to speak in your own language and people hearing will hear your words in their native language.
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And both of those contradict what the woman in this video said, which is that it's important because Satan can't understand it.
 
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arthwollipot, i see what you mean there. Can they understand each other?
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Only if they've been given the "gift of interpretation".

1 Corinthians:

12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
 
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And both of those contradict what the woman in this video said, which is that it's important because Satan can't understand it.
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All of which underscores the fact that most Christian sects, especially the "fundamental" ones, use mythology made up totally outside of any sort of Biblical foundation.
I've been to a couple of Pentacostal services which included speaking in tongues by parishoners, and the really funny part is when an equally deluded nutjob begins to "translate" the gibberish. It's much better to hear the raw ******** in English.
 
autumn1971 said:
I've been to a couple of Pentacostal services which included speaking in tongues by parishoners, and the really funny part is when an equally deluded nutjob begins to "translate" the gibberish. It's much better to hear the raw ******** in English.
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I remember clearly one time during worship, this guy suddenly stood up and shouted "ALAALBLBLBLLANAKANVNANJAALALCKKVAAAA!!!!"

The pastor said nervously, "uh... anyone with an interpretation?"

There was a pause, then one old guy spoke up and said "uh, because God so loves the world... that he, uh, gave his only begotten son..."

"Hallelujah!"
 
Sounds like "HAIL CTHULHU RYLETH ASSOTA" to me. Well no it doesn't but a man can dream...
 
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