Soy, Bean Of Death

[Solitaire]

Soy, Bean Of Death

The Chinese did not eat unfermented soybeans as they did
other legumes such as lentils because the soybean contains
large quantities of natural toxins or "antinutrients". First among
them are potent enzyme inhibitors that block the action of trypsin
and other enzymes needed for protein digestion. These inhibitors
are large, tightly folded proteins that are not completely deactivated
during ordinary cooking. They can produce serious gastric distress,
reduced protein digestion and chronic deficiencies in amino acid uptake.
In test animals, diets high in trypsin inhibitors cause enlargement and
pathological conditions of the pancreas, including cancer. Additionally,
99%, a very large percentage of soy is genetically modified and it also
has one of the highest percentages contamination by pesticides of any
of our foods.

Whoa! Is industry interested in anything but our deaths?

But except in times of famine, Asians consume soy products only in
small amounts, as condiments, and not as a replacement for animal
foods - with one exception. Celibate monks living in monasteries and
leading a vegetarian lifestyle find soy foods quite helpful because they
dampen libido.

Hey! Some good news. Finally it'll be a little less crowded at the beach.

P.S. I recommend bookmarking this site.

 

[Soapy Sam]

You forgot the estrogen mimics that shrink your sperm count.

 

[Goshawk]

Bookmark a woowoo axe-to-grind pseudoscience website? Why?

And this website has the usual pseudoscience flurry of factoids unsupported by cites, sweeping generalizations, and alarmist irrelevancies ("A 1996 report published in the German magazine Klin Padiatr describing the development of hypocalcemic tetany in an infant fed soy formula...")

But except in times of famine, Asians consume soy products only in small amounts, as condiments

Not true: tofu.

I can't find any information on Google at all--other than similar axe-to-grind anti-soy pseudoscience websites--that indicates that soybeans, whether cooked or uncooked, are truly toxic, as this website claims. Uncooked "as-is" soybeans are fairly indigestible, but then, so are uncooked kidney beans, peas, lentils, etc. And tofu and soy milk are not "cooked" as such, and I can't find any information that says that those products are "toxic" either.

 

[SquishyDave]

Additionally, 99%, a very large percentage of soy is genetically modified and it also has one of the highest percentages contamination by pesticides of any of our foods.

Why are they saying that 99% is a very large percent, I know that.

Also, why say genetically modified like it's a bad thing, they could modify it so it has less nasty stuff that makes your liver die, or they could just modify it to make it grow better, thus not effecting its toxicity to humans one bit.

Most of the non-meat products I eat have pesticides on them, and indeed, they grow naturally inside the very fabric of the aforementioned non-meat products, so why is that bad?

 

[jj]

Most of the non-meat products I eat have pesticides on them, and indeed, they grow naturally inside the very fabric of the aforementioned non-meat products, so why is that bad?

Anyone eat onions? Hot peppers? Garlic? Mustard? Horseradish?

What do you think all those delicious flavours are?

 

[epepke]

Anyone eat onions? Hot peppers? Garlic? Mustard? Horseradish?

What do you think all those delicious flavours are?

Well, the others may be pesticides, but the oleoresin capsicum in hot peppers appears to have evolved to make them more delicious to birds, who spread the well fertilized seeds.

 

[Soapy Sam]

And leaving garlic in the fridge definitely reduces the development of blue-green fungus / algae or whatever.
Trust me on this.

 

[phildonnia]

And leaving garlic in the fridge definitely reduces the development of blue-green fungus / algae or whatever.
Trust me on this.

Eating raw onions has been known to prevent vererial disease.

 

[c0rbin]

Eating lots of Garlic and Onions has seriously cut down on my (successful) dating.

 

[garys_2k]

Soybeans seem to have strong pro and anti camps (for some reason, almost as controversial as guns). AFAIK some have proposed that the lower rates of prostate cancer in Asian countries may be due to the soy isoflavones more commonly consumed there, while others have implied that hormone-like substances can increase the cancer risk.

 

[fishbob]

Eating lots of Garlic and Onions has seriously cut down on my (successful) dating.

Another benefit, just look at all the money you saved.

 

[epepke]

Eating lots of Garlic and Onions has seriously cut down on my (successful) dating.

You're dating the wrong people. I insist upon a love of garlic and hot peppers in anyone I date.

 

[phildonnia]

You're dating the wrong people. I insist upon a love of garlic and hot peppers in anyone I date.

I was fortunate to find someone who loves garlic and peppers; sadly, she hates onions.

But back to the soybean:

Since the soybean is apparently some asian thing, the obvious predjudice to your typical american is that it's exotic and magical and brings balance to your self or something.

At the same time western short-sighted fools with bad furniture-arrangement skills have gone and turned it into TVP, mayonnaise, and far worse.

That's probably the source of the great soybean debate right there.

 

[epepke]

I was fortunate to find someone who loves garlic and peppers; sadly, she hates onions.

Well, the woman whom I'm going to marry when I get enough money can't eat raw onions any more. However, when she could, she always offered me an onion off her salad when I didn't get one "for self-defense." Beat that as an expression of pure love.

Since the soybean is apparently some asian thing, the obvious predjudice to your typical american is that it's exotic and magical and brings balance to your self or something.

At the same time western short-sighted fools with bad furniture-arrangement skills have gone and turned it into TVP, mayonnaise, and far worse.

That's probably the source of the great soybean debate right there.

Heh. Although it could be a 'Merkin thing considering that Henry Ford started cultivating soybeans in the hopes that he could make a plastic from them. Or some Commie plot, given the prominence of soybeans in Atlas Shrugged.

Personally, I think that there are far worse things to worry about than soy beans, and of soy beans, the fact that tofu isn't really all that great is more important. However, I do get a chuckle out of people who insist that Monosodium Glutamate gives them headaches but snarf down tofu, which is chock full of glutamaic acid, like there's no tomorrow.

 

[phildonnia]

It's definitely a problem for the 'I believe everything I read in "Prevention"' group.

I don't understand the feminine angle on soy marketing. Where did that come from?

I see ads for some candy bar with soy essence for women, and I think, hey, I just spent less than that on a one-gallon plastic bottle of soy essence.

I'm speaking in generalities of course. The aforementioned onion-hater is definitely the financial genius in the family.

 

[Virgil]

Anyone eat onions? Hot peppers? Garlic? Mustard? Horseradish?

What do you think all those delicious flavours are?

chemicals in the plants that are produced naturally.

if it makes you feel better, they are organic chemicals


Virgil

PS in onions and gralic it is various thiols

 

[Solitaire]

Bookmark a woowoo axe-to-grind pseudoscience website? Why?

I remember when the forum was new and we'd go look at wierd sites.
The Conciousness Page is worth at least a laugh.
Sigh. It's my dad whose into this stuff.
No more burgers, no more hot dogs...