So, JE has a 3 year waiting list? Think again...

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JE-fan(atic)s often point to the 3-year waiting list as evidence that JE is real - for why else would he be so popular? He also brags about it himself, for the very same reason.

Think again.

JE describes in his upcoming book "After Life" that he has contacted Aaliyah, who died two years ago. He has contacted the mother of Mia Tyler, daughter of Aerosmith singer Steven Tyler. The mother died September 9th, 2002. Not even one year ago. He has also contacted the father of Norman Mailer's wife. (Time of death not available).

Now, he is claiming that he didn't know who the relatives of Aaliyah were. He presumably also didn't know who Mia Tyler was, because that would leave the door wide open for hotreading. The book also has to be written, proof-read, printed, distributed, etc, etc. All that takes time.

That means his waiting list is not 3 years, but far, far less than 1 year. Unless, of course, celebrities don't have to wait in line...

"Bending the rules" again? But wait, that can't be true, because how can JE "bend the rules" for celebrities, if he doesn't know who he is reading?

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CFLarsen said:
JE-fan(atic)s often point to the 3-year waiting list as evidence that JE is real - for why else would he be so popular? He also brags about it himself, for the very same reason.

Think again.
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No need to think "again" ...

- this 3 years waiting list, you have to give personnal details to get on it, right ?
- doesn't that ring a bell ?
- how do you make sure those informations will not be used ?

You really, really need to be desperate to believe "there is something in mediumship" (outside of big $) to trust someone like JE, JVP, SB et al. and to defend them against allegations that they might somehow not be "the real thing". :rolleyes:
 
Clearly celebrities get priority, no surprise there. And we have to trust that JE's handlers don't discuss names with him. Can you imagine the conversations:

Handler: "John, we got a call from a celebrity who wants a reading."

John Edward: "Is it a BIG celebrity? One who will help my sagging ratings?"

Handler: "Well, of course I can't simply reveal who it is because even though nobody would know I must follow made up rules that nobody can possibly enforce. But it is a celebrity, not on the "A" list but reasonable."

John Edward: "Hmm, as producer I can't really make a good call on this one without knowing who it is specifically. Why don't you just tell me and I promise to forget right away."

Lurker
 
Interesting information. Sounds to me like JE and gang arranged some special "celebrity" readings to get some stories for this book. I don't think it has anything to do with his regular waiting list for the masses. Of course he bends his rules for publicity and its obvious that these readings aren't part of his standard private reading process. He did these in a hotel; his regular private readings are in his office.

Flo, I take exception to your characterization of people who think there might be something to mediumship. It's not worth getting in a back in forth with you, but your comments are pretty patronizing.
 
Clancie said:

They do? Where? :confused: [/B]
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I know...where'd he pull that one from...but I thought I'd just ignore that one and focus on the newspaper article. :roll:
 
Posted by RC

Sounds to me like JE and gang arranged some special "celebrity" readings to get some stories for this book.
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You're right, RC. His (new) co-author arranged them. (I found them the least interesting parts of the book...just like they're the least interesting parts of the show--and fortunately hardly ever happen anymore...but...whatever...)
 
Hi, Clancie! Good to see you've taken me off ignore once again....

Clancie said:
They do? Where? :confused:
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Here:

"Besides which, I believe that the quote we were referring to here, was the quote where JE "bragged" that his three year waiting list was indicative of his legitimacy as a medium, an idea with which I already said I was in agreement to a certain extent."
neofight, in the thread "George Anderson slams JE and JVP"
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Now, we can argue about whether his fans do it or not. We can, of course, wade through TVTalkshows, Pam's board, etc, to see what we can find.

Do you want to do that, Clancie? Surely, you are not seriously disputing that his fans do point to the long waiting list as a sign of his validity?

Whatever your choice will be, could you address the issue of this thread?

Does JE bend the rules for celebrities he is not supposed to know the identity of?

Or does he lie about his 3-year waiting list?

Or...perhaps you have a third possibility? Hey, I'm open-minded....
 
From JE's own site:

As it stands right now-the waiting list for an appointment is approximately 3 years. We will be working strictly from the waiting list...no exceptions....
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O....K.

Somebody, explain this to me. Please.
 
CFLarsen said:

Somebody, explain this to me. Please.
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It means that for the unwashed masses, there is no way to book an appointment with JE unless you are already on the list. There is no way to get on the list, and if you are on, you'll just have to wait.

Of course, if you are a celebrity, that is a special case. Waiting list? What waiting list? Come right in sir, and meet with the great JE - you don't mind the cameras, do you? No? Great, then have a seat.

It is like a restaurant that tells you you can't get a reservation for 3 weeks, and when movie star X shows up out of the blue, he gets a table.

As for the waiting list as a sign of validity... well, Milli Vanilli sold out concerts too, and they couldn't even sing.
 
Thanz,

So, JE is lying through his teeth when he says "no exceptions".

OK.

How do celebrities - or the families of celebrities - get a reading, without revealing their identity? They call up and say "Hey, I'm related to a famous dead guy, but I won't tell you who"?
 
CFLarsen said:
Thanz,

So, JE is lying through his teeth when he says "no exceptions".

OK.
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Well, the website is for the common folk, and the no exceptions applies to them. It would be extremely stupid for them to put on the website "no exceptions unless you are famous or I can get some publicity".

Now, I do not know if this is how they work. It is just my cynical viewpoint. But if I am right, then yes - the website saying "no exceptions" is lying, just like the maitre'd who tells me no tables are available for three weeks, but any celebrity can walk right in.

Now, I'd agree that giving priority to celebrities sucks, and saying that a long wait list proves his validity is an extremely poor argument (at best), but I don't think I would attach much significance at all to the "no exceptions" (when there are exceptions) as proof of anything other than JE likes to get publicity, and he is in demand from his followers, and his staff wants to work through the backlog for a while.

How do celebrities - or the families of celebrities - get a reading, without revealing their identity? They call up and say "Hey, I'm related to a famous dead guy, but I won't tell you who"?
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Easy! Lurker described it perfectly! :D
 
Thanz,

So, when should we believe what JE says? How do we know when he is lying, and when does he speak the truth?

I saw what Lurker wrote. Surely, nobody can believe that??
 
CFLarsen said:
Thanz,

So, when should we believe what JE says? How do we know when he is lying, and when does he speak the truth?
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I don't know. You have lied. How do I know when you are lying and when you are speaking the truth?

Personally, I don't believe JE when he says he is talking to the dead. Of course, that is the big question. But even if I had my doubts (and believed he may be talking to the dead) this thing on his website would do nothing to sway me.

Actually, I guess it is possible that he is talking to the dead. There is no evidence of it, however, and unless and until there is I feel comfortable in my believe that he isn't. And I can safely say that I was not swayed one iota in this belief by the "no exceptions" line on the website.

I saw what Lurker wrote. Surely, nobody can believe that??
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I think that Lurker was posting tongue in cheek. I was merely expressing my appreciation for his humour.
 
CFLarsen said:
Thanz,

I have not lied. Don't derail this thread.
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You have, but I won't further derail this thread. If you want to take up your defence, you know where to do it. I have put up, and I see that you have shut up. That's fine.
 
Thanz said:

You have, but I won't further derail this thread. If you want to take up your defence, you know where to do it. I have put up, and I see that you have shut up. That's fine.
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Thanz, why don't you STFU!!?? You are a stupid, ignorant, freaking troll!!

The discussion was about John Edward, not CFL. Why do you insist on attacking CFL anytime he brings up good points against mediumship or JE, or any other topic? If you have a problem with CFL, I suggest you settle it with him in PM or place him on ignore.
 
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