Sifu Lama David Moore and telekinesis

[Jenn Yu]

I ran a search for Sifu David Moore and came up empty, which is why I started this thread. There was speculation in some martial art forums about David Moore's ability to move objects with his "chi". I heard that James Randi debunked him, but cannot find any information on this forum about it.

Anyway, this is David Moore's website, and a copy of the affidavit "verifying" his psychic ability:

 

[crimresearch]

This venerable 'Master' of the ancient Asian martial arts traditions?

http://www.mymaster.homestead.com/Photos.html

Why, what is there to be skeptical of?

 

[Sanamas]

From the affidavit:

I have footage of Sifu Moore matching the world record in bear-handed breaking.

Anyone who abuses animals like that must be a fake.

 

[Jenn Yu]

No one's heard of this guy? Can't say I'm surprised. Dude claims he can rip quarters in half and move chopsticks with his mind. Has anyone ever investigated his ability?

 

[Z]

Rip quarters in half? Big deal - I saw a guy ripping whole dollars in half.

And I can move chopsticks with my mind too. Dare to ask me how?



~Dragon, in a drunken mood - but sober, go fig??

 

[Jyera]

IT says ...

"I, Paul Viele, under penalty of perjury do solemnly swear and affirm the following true statements"

It created the impression that someone swear seriously about the statements to be made, and since there is a serious-sounding "penalty of perjury", which deter the swearer from lying, the person must be telling the truth.

What do you call such an act?

What is the meaning and implication of "penalty of perjury"?

What is the value of such a AFFIDAVIT?

 

[H3LL]

And I can move chopsticks with my mind too. Dare to ask me how?

Say "please pass me the chopsticks" or just pick them up.

Do I win a prize?

 

[Nucular]

Can it be a coincidence that many of the described feats bear a remarkable similarity to magic tricks performed routinely?

Coin breaking and bending, moving light objects without touching them, levitation, bullet (arrow)-catching, etc.

I've not heard of this chap before, so I sent him this email on the off-chance

Dear Mr Moore,

As someone who is very interested in paranormal claims, claimed superhuman abilities, etc., I was pleased that someone brought up your name and linked to your website and affidavit on a website I frequent.

There is a discussion about your abilities underway there, and, since it is a sceptical website, the claims have not met with uncritical acceptance. I wondered if you would be interested in joining in the discussion, whether to defend your claims, have your say, or simply to clarify for us what your claims are, and how they are achieved.

You can find the discussion on the message board of the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF, www.randi.org), direct link here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58956

I would also like to mention that the JREF itself offers a prize of $1,000,000 to anyone who can demonstrate a paranormal ability; many of the things it is said you can do would qualify for the prize. All you would be required to do is apply for entry, and demonstrate an ability of your choice which meets the demands of the challenge – it is likely that the actual demonstration would be rather similar to that you gave for Paul Viele, in order to obtain his affidavit, though only of one ability you choose, and under conditions you can agree with the JREF. You can find details of the challenge here: http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

I realise you state you don’t perform to obtain money or profit; may I suggest that upon receipt of the $1,000,000 you donate it to a charity or organisation of your choice.

Please note: I am not connected with the JREF in any way, and don’t speak for them; I am simply a member of the JREF message board.

I honestly hope you can find the time to join our discussion, and would be very excited if you did apply for the JREF prize.

Yours sincerely,

Will ******
(‘Nucular’ on the JREF message board)

We can but hope

 

[DavoMan]

And I can move chopsticks with my mind too. Dare to ask me how?

You put your head down on the table & push the chopsticks with your forehead. That's using ya head.

 

[crimresearch]

IT says ...

"I, Paul Viele, under penalty of perjury do solemnly swear and affirm the following true statements"

It created the impression that someone swear seriously about the statements to be made, and since there is a serious-sounding "penalty of perjury", which deter the swearer from lying, the person must be telling the truth.

What do you call such an act?

What is the meaning and implication of "penalty of perjury"?

What is the value of such a AFFIDAVIT?

Nothing. It hasn't been sworn to in front of any authority. The Notary's seal merely proves that the person signing it showed ID in the same name.

It is pure hype.

 

[Jyera]

But just let say we cannot stop Paul Viele from making this AFFIDAVIT.

I wonder how is it possible for us to assist him in making an AFFIDAVIT which is accurate, fair and free from logical fallacies and free from unsubstiated claim. Doing so would be beneficial to the public.

Or perhaps in the process of trying, make Paul realise that he had better not do this AFFIDAVIT. Unless he has an intention to purposely mislead a reader.

 

[Jyera]

Advise#1.

Paul should Swear in front of a credible authority, who really can mett out the "penalty of perjury".

Benefit: Shows real seriousness of the AFFIDAVIT.

 

[Jyera]

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"I have footage of Sifu catching and deflecting a bolt from a 125-lb crossbow blindfolded."
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I thought he should remove "125-lb". It is misleading.
The weight of the crossbow has no bearing to the speed of the bolt. Neither does it indicate that it is very hard to stop.

Perhaps indicating a horsepower of the crossbow would be more relevant.

OR does in general, heavier crossbow means stronger horsepower?

 

[crimresearch]

'Weight' means how many pounds it takes to pull the string back to a certain point...hence the term 'draw weight'** to indicate which bows are more powerful.

The higher the number, the more kinetic energy is stored, to be imparted to the projectile.

(ETA: **Sometimes also referred to as 'pull')

 

[moondogsmoothie]

I don't know who this randi fellow is, but I have first hand seen the Sifu move objects. He has made a steak knife move in a circle, and then used that steak knife to levitate a bottle cap underneath an upended wine glass. He was about 2 feet away from the wine glass, the bottle cap was placed under the glass. He then concentrated. The bottlecap raised into the air, clinking against the wineglass. He proceeded to move it around within the wine glass. Soon after the wine glass ended up breaking, and someone's drink had fizzled out of their bottle. I hope you are looking for info on the Sifu Lama David Moore in the Rochester area (suburb) in New York State. The man is truly amazing.

 

[Irish Murdoch]

Plenty of people have seen David Copperfield doing amazing things first-hand. Most of those people don't know how on earth he did them. They were tricks, though. What makes you think that this chap's case isn't similar? (By the way, I imagine that the original poster is talking about the same Sifu Lama David Moore. I can't imagine there is an inordinate number of people with that name.)

 

[moondogsmoothie]

He had no setup. He brought nothing with him. He was not planning on doing this at all. In fact he was rather feeling like a trained dog when we asked him to do this. The only set up was he made sure there was no water on the table, or on the steak knives. He did not alter the bottlecap at all, and there is no way he could have put magnets or strings set up to it, since he did not bring anything. He was in some sickly short shorts, due to his love of showing off his temple like body, and bare chested. David copperfield sets things up. Either that or he has people help him that are made to look like the group interested. Sifu Dave did not have this co-operation. In fact the owner of the house was reluctant to have Dave succeed, since he had to promise to serve for a year as an advisor to his church, something that he has reluctantly done in the past and was not wanting to do again, especially since he does not follow his church. Sifu Dave is blessedly crazy. He does not have the same mindset as the normal person. He can do many more things as well. This is all martial arts related, and uses the power of Chi, or Qi, depending on where you say it. I wish you could meet him personally, you would be pleased to find out that he is genuine. I don't think he would take the test, but then maybe he would.......I don't know, to think what he might do or might not....well, too crazy.....in a good way.

 

[imjohn]

He was in some sickly short shorts, due to his love of showing off his temple like body, and bare chested.

 

[Jonquill]

"The only set up was he made sure there was no water on the table, or on the steak knives."

Rubbed them all with a cloth then?

 

[Mr. Skinny]

I don't know who this randi fellow is, but I have first hand seen the Sifu move objects. ,<snip>.

Well, while you're here posting at the James Randi Educational Foundation website, you might take some time to read up about him, then you'll know who this randi fellow is.