Shame at Edmund Scientific.

Just ran into this on their online catalog: http://www.scientificsonline.com/review/product/list/id/5162/category/444475/

It's a training DVD for remote viewing. They're also selling a device for ghost hunting. Maybe with a little encouragement they can be reminded of what their real customer base wants?

Wasn't there a SWIFT entry on this a year or so back, when they first crossed the line? Maybe they could change their name to Edmund Sciencey Stuff.

They were a very respected name, but I guess the lure of money is too great to resist for some people/companies. I remember looking them up and it's not the same company all the science geeks know from the 50s to 70s. Some megacorp owns them now.
 
I've sent them an email about it, and posted a negative review for the product. Here's hoping we can get them to see sense.
 
FWIW, gold plated contacts might be the best approach to making corrosion resistance highly reliable outlets.

Of course gold plated contacts will not have any detectable effect on the performance of an audio system, but these outlets may give you the best chance of having an outlet last for a thousand years or so.

ETA: I just read through some of the customer reviews for the Wattgate 381. I wasn't sure which ones were true believer, company planted or just sarcastic but I'm pretty sure the guy who was using it to cure his warts wasn't being serious.
 
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FWIW, gold plated contacts might be the best approach to making corrosion resistance highly reliable outlets.

Of course gold plated contacts will not have any detectable effect on the performance of an audio system, but these outlets may give you the best chance of having an outlet last for a thousand years or so.

Cryogenic treatment? :o
 
Cryogenic treatment? :o
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Yeah, I saw that little bit of fun but I wasn't quite sure I got it. The idea is that cooling parts of the outlet to cryogenic levels during the manufacturing process improves it somehow? It sounded like this had something to do with some kind of audiophile mythology that I wasn't familiar with.
 
Well, cryogenic hardening of steel is a real thing:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_hardening

But it's completely unnecessary here.

Yeah, I had heard of it in that context, I went looking for any information about it's use with brass. (I assume the metal components of an outlet are brass). I happened on the Wikipedia article which looks like it's a self serving blurb possibly by a company that's involved in cryogenically treating this kind of product. I didn't see any information about its use for treating brass.

Slightly off topic aside:
When I submitted plans for a renovation I was doing to the city the guy had me change the word outlet to receptacle. He said that electricians use the word, outlet, to mean an electrical box that could have a light, switch or receptacle installed in it. Sounded believable to me and I never checked to see if he was right.
 
FWIW, gold plated contacts might be the best approach to making corrosion resistance highly reliable outlets.

Of course gold plated contacts will not have any detectable effect on the performance of an audio system, but these outlets may give you the best chance of having an outlet last for a thousand years or so.

ETA: I just read through some of the customer reviews for the Wattgate 381. I wasn't sure which ones were true believer, company planted or just sarcastic but I'm pretty sure the guy who was using it to cure his warts wasn't being serious.

The site is infested with Electrical Engineers. If you think it might perhaps be sarcasm, it probably is.
 
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=110-439&FTR=duplex outlet

Check the reviews for that. Keep your sarcasm detector on low, low gain, so it doesn't catch fire. That may be the way to handle the one in the OP, too.

That link just cost me about an hour of reading time. Hysterical. I love the guy who plugged his Bose Wave AM/FM Radio into one of the cryogenic receptacles and got an improved LED display. He said something like, (I paraphrase) "I don't know if it's that I'm getting greener greens or blacker blacks - or both - but it's a totally new experience...."
 
"it allowed me to finally notice a slight upper level linear phase cancellation of high frequency harmonics around 68 khz."
My dog couldn't hear this. This guy must have bat ancestry. Or is just bats.
 
My fav review...about the 5th or 6th page....device cured some poor fella's performance anxiety...but he's doing much better, now...

I wonder if it can make crops grow? :)
 
/stands up

Hi folks. Most of you know me as kookbreaker. Some of you know me from owning a certain science store that I am not allowed to mention in my .sig.

In any case, allow me to explain some background.

Edmund Scientific, which most folks know, was sold to Science Kit & Boreal Lab in 2001 so that the Edmund Company could continue to operate as Edmund Optics, they now produce a huge catalog of industrial optics and equipment.

The division that was sold was semi-officially known as 'Scientifics'. They had been using that title on the catalogs for several years before the sale. It was officially 'Scientifics, a division of Edmund Scientific'. It was the Edmund most of us are familiar with.

Science Kit was eventually purchased by VWR - a large supplier of lab equipment. While Scientifics thrived under SK and VWR at first, they have since been struggling a bit. I suspect their catalog management has been an issue. After I had a nice write-up in The Philadelphia Inquirer I was actually contacted by representatives of VWR - I am presently not at liberty to say why. Robert Edmund also contacted me.

As some have noted, this is not Edmund Scientifics first flirting with woo. In the last decade a few items popped up that were very questionable. But in the past the Edmund Catalog was often quite heavy with woo. Evidence this scan I have of a page from the 1975 catalog:

EDsciwoowoo.jpg


Edmund dropped most of this stuff in the 80's when they started to branch out into industrial concerns and were worried about being taken seriously.

I was hired by the Scientifics division in 1999 to be most of their product line manager. I was rather determined to not add anything close to woo stuff, and despite this there were tons of products that came in of one kind of ************ or another. Once the company was sold, I no longer had any say in the product line.
 
I wanted to add an update. I've received a response to my email from them, and I guess the remote viewing DVD is officially discontinued, but they have old stock laying around. After that's gone, it'll be off their website.

They share our perspective on the importance of Edmund sticking to science, and the value of the company in that direction. I'm pretty pleased with the response I've received.
 

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