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~enigma~

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Now this has got to be one of the simplest yet most devastating attacks against TV Fakery that I have ever seen over at LCF.

IVXX@LCF said:
Here's another point maybe the filmmakers could explain.

So the media being "in on it" was able to CGI a plane into a live feeds in 17 seconds yet....... in 6 years they just couldn't seem to CGI a plane into the Pentagon footage.
I'm just speechless and apparently Ace Baker and Uncle Fetzer (and all the rest) should just give up their nonsense. I just got a ton of respect for IVXX now.
 
It's amazing how logical some truthers can be when they are attacking CTs that they don't like.
 
You're giving them too much credit. My 2 year old nephew could debunk Ace Baker.
 
The NWO doesnt want to release a video of a plane hitting the Pentagon because they want conspiracy theorists to think they have something to work with. Its all a game of cat and mouse. I should know...I've been a member of the NWO since April 2002.
 
Now this has got to be one of the simplest yet most devastating attacks against TV Fakery that I have ever seen over at LCF.

I'm just speechless and apparently Ace Baker and Uncle Fetzer (and all the rest) should just give up their nonsense. I just got a ton of respect for IVXX now.


I have a vague memory of someone asking Ace why no one bothered to fake a video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. I don't remember if he answered the question or not--certainly the answer would have been of no consequence--but I can assure you that he didn't like the question.

Incidentally, if no one has asked him this question, why, someone should go ahead and ask it! Don't expect much of an answer.
 
Seems like a good idea Pom & Enigma. If he hasn't been asked yet, I'll go and pose the question to him. By the way, Pom your Hardfire segment with Gravy debunking the Loose Change boys was quite good.
Enigma, mentioning IVXX's posting knocked Me back a bit too. Good Catch.
 
The twin tower strike videos are already bad enough. Why would the perpetrators want to create more evidence against themselves? Do I really have to explain this?

There is a large amount of photos and those security video frames that any composited Pentagon video would have to agree with. It would have to be made from some previously unseen video, obviously. Surely such videos exist, but then, what else do those videos show?

How difficult would the compositing be? Are there trees in the way? Does it show the light poles? Does the explosion look anything like the shape of a plane? (I doubt it). What about the shadows? There are no shadows to deal with in any of the live Twin Tower shots, the later ones only have shadows on the building itself, an easy surface to plot shadows on (yet they still screwed it up). Plotting shadows across uneven ground, bushes, etc. is extremely difficult.

Anything which had a clear Boeing in it would disagree with the security footage frames, as whatever is in those frames is too small.

As I've said, I don't think the plane videos are CGI, I think they are videos of a real plane. These would have been shot and prepped ahead of time. They could only attempt the composite videos they planned for. Actually creating them from scratch after the fact is not a good idea.
 
As I've said, I don't think the plane videos are CGI, I think they are videos of a real plane. These would have been shot and prepped ahead of time. They could only attempt the composite videos they planned for.

So they didn't plan for the pentagon? They just decided to get lazy with that one?
 
The twin tower strike videos are already bad enough. Why would the perpetrators want to create more evidence against themselves? Do I really have to explain this?

In other words, they would fake a pentagon plane video....but they know Ace Baker would expose the hoax so they wouldn't dare.

You, sir, are completely insane.

And I wish you all the best in spreading your "research" far and wide.
 
why would they want to create more evidence? Why would they want to create any evidence that would show a fraud?
 
They wouldn't. Which is exactly why they didn't use real planes. Real planes leave real evidence.
If your family had been on one of the planes it would be real. Guess you do not even think about the families destroyed on 9/11 because you are what? Oh, you want the truth? Wrong. You have made up lies. You see trucks burned by fire, and you listen to the insane Judy Woods, who was fired for her idiot ideas, who says it was a beam weapon. You take real evidence and mess it up and make up lies. Your ideas on 9/11 are wrong. Go lecture your lies on the convention ciruit and feel good you did not have to suffer the lost family members from 9/11. Make up your lies, only you can correct your pathetic lies and false information. You are free to make up stuff and do what you want. But I do not have to like it, and I can label it as the lies they are. Your information on 9/11 is just made up junk. This 9/11 junk you present, negates all your other accomplishments.
 
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They wouldn't. Which is exactly why they didn't use real planes. Real planes leave real evidence.



So they didn't use real planes, because they didn't want to leave real evidence of real planes, but they then went out of their way to create fake evidence of fake planes........


If they wanted evidence of planes, which their "faking" suggests they did, why not just use real planes???????



:confused: :boggled: :drool: :faint: :hypnotize :eye-poppi


Okay, that may be a bit over the top....
 
I've been following the no plane hate thread at LCF. What they at LCF don't realize is, the people at LCF are our 'no planers'. Over there, they treat the no planers exactly like we treat the LCF people here. Provide tons of evidence against the "wrong side". The no planers will never listen to the LCF crew trying to set them straight. Exactly the same way, as the LCF population will never listen to the JREF people trying to explain the LCF crew there was no demolition.
 
Face it Ace, 17 seconds was enough to alter a live video but a fellow truther has pointed out how absurd your theory really is and he did it simply. Not only did IVXX say that but another fellow truther Hierosis pointed out the stupidity of your "fade to black" idea by pointing out that the antenna on the WTC wasn't just for show but it transmitted TV signals. Why do you and your fellow zombies have trouble understanding that the plane's impact would cause a flicker? It even caused lights to flicker on and off as can be seen in the Burger King sign (when the impact is viewed from the street (another point made by your fellow truthers at LCF). Face the facts Ace, your pet theory has been sliced, diced and neatly slam dunked (with a 360).
 
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