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Secretary of Veterans Affairs Hates America

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This is a monumental failure in vetting.

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie praised Confederate States President Jefferson Davis effusively in a 1995 speech, calling him a "martyr to 'The Lost Cause'" and an "exceptional man in an exceptional age."

Wilkie, who delivered the speech in front of a statue of Davis at the US Capitol during an event sponsored by the United Daughters of Confederacy, also said that while he was "no apologist for the South," viewing Confederate "history and the ferocity of the Confederate soldier solely through the lens of slavery and by the slovenly standards of the present is dishonest and a disservice to our ancestors."

Wilkie's speech, a transcript of which ran in the United Daughters of the Confederacy Magazine, reveals his belief in the "Lost Cause" theory of the Civil War, which portrays the Southern states who seceded as heroic and denies the central role slavery played as a cause for the conflict.

A KFile review also found Wilkie attended a pro-Confederate event as recently as 2009, giving a speech on Robert E. Lee to a Maryland division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
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Weird that this keeps happening, right?
 
theprestige said:
As long as he takes care of the veterans, and doesn't try to secede, I don't think there's much of a problem.
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Just so I understand the bounds of your tolerance... what if he was an unabashed neo-nazi who takes care of the veterans and doesn't try to gas jews? Is that a problem? If yes, why?
 
LSSBB said:
I think that honoring those who fought against America, and freedom for all humans, does a disservice to America's veterans.
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I think a VA that does its job is probably of paramount importance to veterans.

As a citizen who sees the need for a military, who respects soldiers, and who wishes the best care for your veterans, what would you prefer: A VA boss who's good at his job? Or a VA boss who has Correct Thought?
 
theprestige said:
I think a VA that does its job is probably of paramount importance to veterans.

As a citizen who sees the need for a military, who respects soldiers, and who wishes the best care for your veterans, what would you prefer: A VA boss who's good at his job? Or a VA boss who has Correct Thought?
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Why not both?
 
theprestige said:
I think a VA that does its job is probably of paramount importance to veterans.

As a citizen who sees the need for a military, who respects soldiers, and who wishes the best care for your veterans, what would you prefer: A VA boss who's good at his job? Or a VA boss who has Correct Thought?
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False dichotomy.
 
There's a statue of Jefferson Davis at the U.S. Capitol?
 
Do these southern states really have no past citizens more distinguished and less controversial than these Confederates to represent them at the US Capitol?
 
LSSBB said:
This. Except I don't term it Correct Thought. I term it Not Endorsing or Excusing Our Enemies.
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Yeah, I remember a time when we all pretty much agreed that things like treason and slavery are bad.
 
Darat said:
Why not both?
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What? Both? Like, this is actually possible? It's inconceivable! I'm confounded! I can't wrap my mind around it! I'm perplexed and stupefied! Is this a realistic suggestion or are you having us on? Both?! WTF?

Add: I may be perplexed, but I want to be sure that I've been clear in expressing my confusion: Are we actually talking about a both concept?
 
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theprestige said:
I think a VA that does its job is probably of paramount importance to veterans.

As a citizen who sees the need for a military, who respects soldiers, and who wishes the best care for your veterans, what would you prefer: A VA boss who's good at his job? Or a VA boss who has Correct Thought?
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As long as all the black veterans show proper subservience I am sure he will do fine. Remember to know their proper place and all.
 
johnny karate said:
Yeah, I remember a time when we all pretty much agreed that things like treason and slavery are bad.
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Lost Cause Confederacy apologists agree* that slavery is bad. They just don’t believe in evidence of historical fact that the slavery was the cornerstone of the Confederacy.

Much like the preference-based reality of the rest of the Trump Administration.



* Edit: That might be too broad of a brush. I should say many agree. IIRC, there are some who believe black people were merely better off as slaves, for their own good.
 
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Upchurch said:
Lost Cause Confederacy apologists agree* that slavery is bad. They just don’t believe in evidence of historical fact that the slavery was the cornerstone of the Confederacy.

Much like the preference-based reality of the rest of the Trump Administration.



* Edit: That might be too broad of a brush. I should say many agree. IIRC, there are some who believe black people were merely better off as slaves, for their own good.
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Same as Holocaust deniers. They don't (ostensibly) support killing Jews, they just pretend it didn't happen. And those Nazis weren't so bad a fellas then, right?

ETA: and if you think it's an overreach to equate Confederacy apologists to Holocaust deniers, I say I don't see a difference.
 
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LSSBB said:
ETA: and if you think it's an overreach to equate Confederacy apologists to Holocaust deniers, I say I don't see a difference.
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That's an interesting parallel I hadn't considered before. I'd be interested in what the arguments against that might be, because I can't think of any that aren't trivial to debunk.
 
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