Score one for the Anarchists

[Mycroft]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-blast-idUSKBN16N1DZ

"A female employee of the International Monetary Fund suffered injuries to her face and arms on Thursday when a letter bomb mailed from Greece and addressed to the world lender's European representative blew up as she opened it, officials said.

The letter, which had arrived by mail, exploded as it was opened by a secretary at the institution's office in an upscale part of Paris.

The secretary, whose hearing was also affected, was receiving treatment but her injuries were not life-threatening, Paris police chief Michel Cadot told reporters. The blast caused little damage to the office."

That secretary, who was clearly a fascist and had it coming, will not soon forget her punishment meted out by the brave antifa forces!


/sarcasm

 

[marplots]

Lesson learned. Don't open other people's mail.

 

[Thermal]

The article says that no one has claimed responsibility for the attack, and that:

France, which is in the middle of a campaign for presidential elections in six weeks time, has been hit by attacks by Islamist groups in the last few years that have killed scores of people and the country is still in a state of emergency with army units patrolling the streets of Paris.

How do you attribute this to specifically anarchists as opposed to Islamic or other terrorist groups?

 

[Mycroft]

How do you attribute this to specifically anarchists as opposed to Islamic or other terrorist groups?

Good question. I may have cited the wrong article.

The Greek group that claimed responsibility for the German bombing, Conspiracy Cells of Fire, claimed in an online posting Thursday on a Greek left-wing website that the attack was part of a concerted campaign by international anarchist groups.

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....-explodes-france-office-imf-injuring-46167493

"Conspiracy Cells of Fire " is the anarchist group who claimed responsibility. I assume their name sounds better in it's native Greek.

Another source:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.tele...one-hurt-envelope-explosion-paris-office/amp/

 

[rjh01]

Lesson. Get mail opened by people who are disabled. These people must be isolated from each other and the rest of the staff.

Must not have highly paid staff injured by letter bombs.

 

[Thermal]

Good question. I may have cited the wrong article.

The Greek group that claimed responsibility for the German bombing, Conspiracy Cells of Fire, claimed in an online posting Thursday on a Greek left-wing website that the attack was part of a concerted campaign by international anarchist groups.

Yeah, CCof F quickly claimed responsibility for the German parcel, but has been quiet on the Paris letter which happened the day after. The article cited mentioned the Grecian return address and the recipient was with the IMF, so it is plausible that the sender was another group who was terroristicly reacting to the IMF's austerity measures in Greece.

"Conspiracy Cells of Fire " is the anarchist group who claimed responsibility. I assume their name sounds better in it's native Greek.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

The only Greek C-thing of Fire that I know is this one:

 

[caveman1917]

Yawn.

So it's 1 point for an injury. How many points for a kill - let's say 10?

That would make the scores:
Anarchists: 1
IMF: >1 000 000

Like I said: yawn. Let us know when the anarchists even come close to the IMF's score.

 

[Darth Rotor]

"Ideas are also weapons." - Subcomandante Marcos

How's your boy doing these days, caveman?

 

[Jules Galen]

These particular Anarchists seem like a bunch of losers. Hurting a poor wage-slave secretary does not score points in the arena of public sentiment.

 

[caveman1917]

"Ideas are also weapons." - Subcomandante Marcos

How's your boy doing these days, caveman?

My boy?

 

[caveman1917]

These particular Anarchists seem like a bunch of losers. Hurting a poor wage-slave secretary does not score points in the arena of public sentiment.

I'm sure they care a lot about public sentiment. But if your standard is public sentiment then maybe the Front National or something might be more appropriate, racism and fascism do it really well with public sentiment these days. Heck, some dude in America even got elected president on it.

 

[Mycroft]

Yawn.

So it's 1 point for an injury. How many points for a kill - let's say 10?

That would make the scores:
Anarchists: 1
IMF: >1 000 000

Like I said: yawn. Let us know when the anarchists even come close to the IMF's score.

She had it coming?

Maybe promoting this book and evidence based decision making is a better idea than injuring some random person who had the misfortune of being the one to open the mail that morning would be a better idea?

What would be more productive? Resolving conflicting academic points of view with books, peer reviewed papers and studies of real world examples? Or by sending letters bombs to institutions that follow policies you disagree with?

 

[caveman1917]

Maybe promoting this book and evidence based decision making is a better idea

Then feel free to do so. It would be a much better idea than your boring crusade against anarchists.

What would be more productive?

Well, if you're taking your own advice about promoting evidence based decision making then you know how to figure out what is more productive.

 

[Ziggurat]

These particular All Anarchists seem like a bunch of losers.

FTFY.

 

[Mycroft]

Then feel free to do so.

I haven't reviewed the evidence and so have no opinion myself. Also, not my crusade.

But for those who are convinced I propose that educating people is a better idea than hurting them.

It would be a much better idea than your boring crusade against anarchists.

It's boring, yet of all that's out there on the Internet, it's what draws your attention.

 

[caveman1917]

I haven't reviewed the evidence and so have no opinion myself. Also, not my crusade.

If you haven't reviewed the evidence, then how are you supposed to make decisions based on it? Is there something in "evidence-based decision making" that I'm missing here?

Also, if your goal was actually doing this IMF vs Anarchists point-scoring thing then you'd be opening multiple threads per day announcing the IMF scoring points. Yet you do not appear to be doing so, and you're not off by a little (say doing a daily aggregate thread for the IMF's scoring).

So yeah, crusade will do just fine.

But for those who are convinced I propose that educating people is a better idea than hurting them.

Yet in this thread you were educated about evidence-based decision making (ie you first need to review the evidence before you can make decisions based on it), the two hence don't seem mutually exclusionary.

But in general I agree, it would be a much better idea for the IMF to enforce free and qualitative public education for people rather than hurting them.

It's boring, yet of all that's out there on the Internet, it's what draws your attention.

Ideological crusades are always boring.

 

[Mycroft]

If you haven't reviewed the evidence, then how are you supposed to make decisions based on it?

When did it become my decision? The IMF is the decision maker here.

Is there something in "evidence-based decision making" that I'm missing here?

Yes, there is lots about evidence-based decision making that you're missing, but I'm trying to nudge you in the right direction. Baby steps.

For example, the IMF follows policies you don't agree with, and you have evidence that a different policy would be more beneficial. How best to get them to consider your evidence and change their minds? Is it:

1) Injure some random person who works in their building, who is unlikely to have anything to do with setting policy and who's injury is likely to prejudice the policy-makers against your views.

2) Do something to draw the attention of the IMF to this evidence of yours that they're not considering. This could include actions such as holding a peaceful demonstrations in front of their building with large signs saying things like, "Your policies are killing people, please read this book and consider different policies", pooling your money to hire a lobbyist to talk to them directly, forming a political action committee, or other possibilities.

My opinion is that option 1 is counter-productive and you would get better results from option 2. Also, it would be less anti-social and you anarchists would become more likely to form romantic relationships with women people of the gender of their preference.

Also, if your goal was actually doing this IMF vs Anarchists point-scoring thing...

That is not my goal.

I could point to the cues that should let anyone know that wasn't my goal, but I think you already knew that so instead I will encourage you to remove your head from your rectal cavity, figuratively speaking.

Recognizing it is possible you may have actually thought my goal was IMF vs Anarchist point scoring, and recognizing that I've often observed people who hold radical political views such as yours are often also people who fit somewhere along the spectrum, if you really and truly did not understand, I will explain it to you without snark and without trying to embarrass you.

Ideological crusades are always boring.

Oh the irony of that statement is beautiful, but I don't think you did that on purpose. Did you?

 

[caveman1917]

That is not my goal.

I could point to the cues that should let anyone know that wasn't my goal, but I think you already knew that so instead I will encourage you to remove your head from your rectal cavity, figuratively speaking.

Of course it's not your goal. If it were, and you'd provide an objective account of the relative activities and policies of the IMF and anarchists according to some scoring system, then it could be interesting and wouldn't be so boring. But that would of course not get the result that your goal requires.

 

[Mycroft]

Of course it's not your goal. If it were, and you'd provide an objective account of the relative activities and policies of the IMF and anarchists according to some scoring system, then it could be interesting and wouldn't be so boring. But that would of course not get the result that your goal requires.

Lol!

When you pick the least important issue and ignore the rest, everyone knows it's because you don't have an answer for the more substantial points. Everyone, including you.

How does that feel?