Questioninggeller
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Schwarzenegger Bans Welfare Cards at Psychics
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madurobob
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Saw that in the news yesterday. Frankly, I was surprised that the debit cards could be used at psychics. Who's brilliant idea was that?
Medical marijuana might be another story. If you have a prescription, that's a suggestion that it is a necessity rather than purely discretionary.
Medical marijuana might be another story. If you have a prescription, that's a suggestion that it is a necessity rather than purely discretionary.
madurobob
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kinda like giving a free beer to everyone who passes the driving test on friday.But, I wonder if there are any other prescription drugs you cannot buy with your California welfare debit card. I doubt it. In fact, it sounds like the restriction is only by merchant, not by item. so, I can max out my card buying ammunition at Wal-Mart, but I can't pick up a lid to enjoy the shooting? Bogus.
sadhatter
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You know i don't know how to feel about this. When i originally saw the pot shops, i assumed they were talking about , what we reefer ( i had to, sorry) to in canada as " hemp shops." , the place where you go to buy your bong, your pipe screens, your flavoring agents, Special tobacco ( and i am legitimately talking about special tobacco. Like imported tobacco, not pot.) , etc. And i would be down with that, the government shouldn't be paying to get you baked, help get you baked, or making your getting baked experience more enjoyable.
But medical pot? Really? That just seems wrong to me, if someone has it prescribed, it is legal, if they are going to a store that has been through all the proper paperwork, that is legal, so what is the problem? It would seem to me, like if i were in a position of power, and due to the plague of prescription abuse that is going on ( 1/3rd of all scripts given out in my province are false.) , i decided to make it so that those on welfare can no longer use their ODB (ontario drug benefit.) on prescribed narcotics.
As a bit of a thought experiment, if pot were legal, and sold in the same way as booze, i would support the decision.
The rest, i agree with. Welfare should be to keep you reasonably comfortable, in good health and in no danger ( due to living on the street, or without heat for example. ) , not to let you get messed up, or indulge in other expense laden recreational activities. I am not saying that there should be no money given to those on welfare for recreation, but that certain activities, are simply not something the government should pay for.
As a final thought ( and i think this may come of as cold. ), most people get messed up ( drinking, for example.) to relieve stress from work/school. If one is not going to school or working, ( and having their way payed for.) They shouldn't be drinking, they should be using this time to learn a new skill , to get gainful employment, so they can not be a drain on the system. Then if they want to use their own money to buy a Texas micky of southern comfort, and a joint bigger than my arm, let them. Quite literally, they earned it.
But medical pot? Really? That just seems wrong to me, if someone has it prescribed, it is legal, if they are going to a store that has been through all the proper paperwork, that is legal, so what is the problem? It would seem to me, like if i were in a position of power, and due to the plague of prescription abuse that is going on ( 1/3rd of all scripts given out in my province are false.) , i decided to make it so that those on welfare can no longer use their ODB (ontario drug benefit.) on prescribed narcotics.
As a bit of a thought experiment, if pot were legal, and sold in the same way as booze, i would support the decision.
The rest, i agree with. Welfare should be to keep you reasonably comfortable, in good health and in no danger ( due to living on the street, or without heat for example. ) , not to let you get messed up, or indulge in other expense laden recreational activities. I am not saying that there should be no money given to those on welfare for recreation, but that certain activities, are simply not something the government should pay for.
As a final thought ( and i think this may come of as cold. ), most people get messed up ( drinking, for example.) to relieve stress from work/school. If one is not going to school or working, ( and having their way payed for.) They shouldn't be drinking, they should be using this time to learn a new skill , to get gainful employment, so they can not be a drain on the system. Then if they want to use their own money to buy a Texas micky of southern comfort, and a joint bigger than my arm, let them. Quite literally, they earned it.
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But, I wonder if there are any other prescription drugs you cannot buy with your California welfare debit card. I doubt it. In fact, it sounds like the restriction is only by merchant, not by item. so, I can max out my card buying ammunition at Wal-Mart, but I can't pick up a lid to enjoy the shooting? Bogus.
....lid? I assume it is a dope reference, but i have never heard it myself. ARe you maybe thinking of the phonetic pronunciation of LB ( often used) ? Or is it a regional dialect thing? I am not trying to say " you don't know your dope" at all, just wondering out of curiosity. I found out fairly recently that in some areas "Shake " refers to very good pot. While here it is the opposite. So by no means am i Tommy chong, with infallible dope knowledge.
madurobob
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you must be a lot younger than I am. In old hippie lingo a "lid" refers to a quantity of marijuana - typically an ounce.sadhatter
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Really, that is interesting information. Is it regional, or something fairly common? I honestly find dope slang history and mutability almost as entertaining as the product itself, lol.
Btw, i am 25 so more than likely a bit , at the least, younger than you are.
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From my wheezing, staggering student days of the 60s & 70's, I remember the term as an American one not much used in the south-east UK, unless giggling about the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers...
That probably explains it
Dude! I mean, like, DOOOOOOOOD!
A lid is like, an ounce, man! They like, put it on a scale and weigh it!
And a nickel bag is like, five ounces, man! And a dime bag is like, now get this, man, ten ounces! That's enough for like, ten joints, or one huge FATTIE!!!
DOOOOOOOOD! I gettina munchies jus thinkin bout it!
madurobob
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Doood, I was totally getting ripped off in high school! I'd pay, like, $10 for a dime bag, but it was never anything like 10 oz, bro. But, that's probably a good thing, too, cuz I would have been b-a-k-e-d.
quadraginta
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It was very common in the U.S. when I was younger. I don't know of anywhere in the country where it wouldn't have been recognized by those who indulged.
And yes, you are younger than I am. You're also younger than my youngest son.
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Well I certainly understand no pot for the dirt poor trash. The booze they can still buy with my money should be enough to keep them jobless, homeless and worthless.
What I don't understand in why they can't waste my money on psychics. How else are the illegal aliens gonna know when their one true love is gonna show up or when they will hit the lottery. (Using more of my money to buy the lottery tickets of course.)
What I don't understand in why they can't waste my money on psychics. How else are the illegal aliens gonna know when their one true love is gonna show up or when they will hit the lottery. (Using more of my money to buy the lottery tickets of course.)
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Are we having fun yet?
From my college days in the late 70's, early 80's: nickle bag was also know as "one finger" (for the width of weed across the bottom of the baggie) and was a quarter ounce. Dime bag was two fingers, a half ounce. $5 and $10, respectively. I think all we got was Minnesota ditch weed. Whee.
One of the jokes we had out here (I moved to CA for grad school and stayed) with Gov. Moonbeam, during his first administration, was that the official state cookie should be the Moon Pie, for the appeal to people with the munchies as well as an homage to Brown.
Anne
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The difference is that Mexicans smoke pot, and they don't take prescription narcotics.
If we get rid of the pot, the theory goes, we get rid of the Mexicans.
It hasn't worked too well so far.
Dancing David
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The idea was that there was a move away from the food stamp coupons, which created this huge second economy for businesses. The coupons had to be printed, distributed, then redeemed, which created a huge amount of side costs. In the 1990s Illinois moved to what was called the LINK system, which was the equivalent of an ATM card that retailers who sold food could use, the idea was to reduce the costs of the system. The other issue being the idea that this would reduce the black market exchange of food stamp coupons for cash at usually a 50% rate.
Now the issue that has probably happened in California is that they have switched to standard style debit cards and also combined the food stamp programs with the cash assistance program. But this would have been a huge oversight by the state administration.
Dancing David
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Nope a lid is a lid actually (or so i was told by older dopers) , it was a volume measure as opposed to a weight measure, allegedly the lid to a Prince Albert can or some such.
madurobob
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I have heard this, too. But this definitely migrated to lid=ounce by the early seventies. At least where I lived.
Yes, that's what I was thinking. I've stood behind people buying food with their public assistance cards here in NC and they have to segregate their groceries into two orders: stuff they can put on the assistance card and stuff they cannot. The POS terminal will refuse some things when the public assistance card is used (I assume the cashier has to tell it in advance what the payment type will be?).
I assumed this was the rule nationwide, but apparently not.