That is not what these kids are. I should not have said that they were. That doesn't mean that I buy into the ridiculous conspiracy theory that the students themselves organized a grassroots movement
I'm glad we cleared up the "crisis actor" thing.
No one thinks that they organized a movement all by themselves.
in response to a mass shooting at their school and that's taken over the world because they have the moral imperative.
They do have the moral imperative.
These kids are feeling genuine moral outrage but that outrage is being manipulated by adults behind the scenes
"Manipulated"? That's an odd word to use. Certainly they are in touch with adults. They get advice. They couldn't get permits for marches all over the country, plus a big one on Pennsylvania Avenue, without adult help. But in what sense is it "manipulation"? I'm pretty sure that these kids are on board with the agenda of these behind the scenes adults.
and channeled to push a political agenda and has been starting on the day of the shooting.
A "political agenda"? You mean tighter gun controls? Well, yeah. They're pretty up front about that aren't they? I guess it's a "political agenda" because they need legislators, i.e. politicians, to take action, so that phrase isn't completely inappropriate, but usually the idea of a "political agenda" is used when someone takes a stand, not because of principle, but because they think it will get them or their friends elected. e.g. Karl Rove pushed a whole lot of anti-gay marriage proposals in 2004, not because he cared one way or another about gay marriage, but because he knew it was good "get out the vote" material for Republicans.
These kids don't have a secret agenda to elect Democrats. They, and the adults that support them, have a very open agenda to pass stricter gun laws. Since so many current legislators have promised not to tighten those laws, new ones will have to be elected, so I guess that's a political objective, but that's just a means to an end. It's not like they are hiding anything.
I don't see any problem with criticizing these kids or calling them out for their BS. They are public figures who deserve to be mocked, ridiculed, and held accountable for what they say and do as much as any public figure.
True, but attack the argument, not the arguer. Do you agree with what they say? Sounds like no. So take issue with what they say. Hold them accountable for what they say, not for "having an agenda", or "being manipulated" or "being children" or whatever. I've heard what they say. I like it. You don't? What's wrong with it?
(Oh, if you could do us a favor, if you choose to talk about what's wrong with it, please discuss what they actually say instead of some bizarre parody of what they say.)
The fact that they are children doesn't mean we should tread lightly in dealing them or worry about hurting their feelings. They don't get a pass just because of what they experienced. The kids who are not in the limelight shouldn't be hounded by the press but Emma and David should have everything they say fact checked and not taken at face value.
I agree. They have made themselves public figures. Fact check it all. You can start with your next reply.
