Scapegoats charged wh manslaughter.

[Tmy]

By BROOKE DONALD
Associated Press Writer

The owners of the nightclub where 100 people were killed in a fire last February were indicted on involuntary manslaughter charges Tuesday along with the tour manager for the heavy metal band whose pyrotechnics sparked the blaze.

Club owners Jeffrey and Michael Derderian were each charged with 200 counts of involuntary manslaughter - two counts for each of the 100 deaths. They were charged for having the flammable soundproofing foam that caused the fire to spread, and for alleged negligence in their management of the club.

Great White tour manager Dan Biechele was charged with 200 counts of involuntary manslaughter for setting off the stage fireworks that ignited the fire.
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Look, we can all agree that the fire was an awful thing. But if only one person died, do you think these charges wouldve surfaced??? I think that there are so many hurt people that theres a posse just waiting to lynch. People are mad that there arent MORE people being charged. The want the from fire cheif up to the and memebers to go to jail.

I dont think the charges will stick. If they do, then roudn up the Firestone and Ford Explorer executives and throw them in the slammer.

 

[The Don]

I watched an episode of CSI Miami last night, I think that was the plot

 

[Richard G]

I'm a firefighter. I inspect buisnesss, and enforce the firecode. There are life safety issues that buisnesss are aware of. I knew way back when I heard the details of this that the owners would be charged. Gross negligence was involved.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

I'm a firefighter. I inspect buisnesss, and enforce the firecode. There are life safety issues that buisnesss are aware of. I knew way back when I heard the details of this that the owners would be charged. Gross negligence was involved.

Do you pack when you're fighting fires? Y'know, in case a crazed criminal is waiting behind a smoky door or something?







(Sorry, folks, couldn't resist- back to the thread)

 

[Thanz]

Do you pack when you're fighting fires? Y'know, in case a crazed criminal is waiting behind a smoky door or something?

You bet he does. He packs a flame thrower.




















So he can, ya know, fight fire with fire.

 

[BillyTK]

I watched an episode of CSI Miami last night, I think that was the plot

I did too, it was cool wasn't it? Except that in the episode, the guy out of Farscape set the fire deliberately so he could prove himself to be a hero and get a job with the fire service, so the scenario is a little different!

 

[Marc]

I'm a firefighter. I inspect buisnesss, and enforce the firecode. There are life safety issues that buisnesss are aware of. I knew way back when I heard the details of this that the owners would be charged. Gross negligence was involved.

Part of their defence is that the business was inspected, and given an ok. Somepeople are saying the person who did the inspection should be put on trial too.

maybe the inspector did not have the idea of setting off fireworks in mind when he checked the place out.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

So he can, ya know, fight fire with fire.

 

[Tmy]

Do you think there actions rises to criminal gross negligence??? Were not taking about drunk driving, or shooting off handguns in an apartment building. I think thats a bit much. The charges are being fueled by public outcry. Its a legal lynching.

A few years ago some fire fighter were killed in a blaze in Worcester Mass. They charged a homeless couple because the accidnetly set the blaze. I believe the judge ended up tossing out the charges after things calmed down.

 

[WildCat]

Scapegoats my @ss. The club owners decided they could get away w/ installing flammable foam soundproofing because it was 3 times cheaper than the stuff they were required to use. They deliberately put their customers at risk to save a few bucks. Disgraceful.

It's a small town, I doubt the fire inspector was an expert on fireproof soundproofing materials. He just checks to see that there's enough exit doors w/ crash bars properly installed, make sure there are fire extinguishers on the premises in working order, and to set an occupancy limit. It's up to the club owners to use the material that the law requires.

Then there's the jackass who tinks it's a good idea to set off pyrotechnics in a club w/ low ceilings.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

This reminds me of the saga of suck-@$$ band Freak Shop.

Cheap sound insulation and ◊◊◊◊-witted pyrotechnics were the cause once again. (You can see the pic of the ill-fated fire-breathing if you want to- I find the haircuts more amusing myself) No one died including, unfortunately, the band- that wasn't to happen until a few months later, and only figuratively, despite the publicity. If you guys are really bored I can tell you a funny story about that night.

A friend of mine who was in the fire has asthma. He was there with his high-strung and drunken girlfriend, and his dimwitted cousin. When the flames hit the ceiling and started burning, it took the drunken patrons a while to figure out what was happening (they were looking at the flames and saying, "oh, wow!" and it wasn't until the band started grabbing their gear they realised an evacuation was in order).

Can I digress for a moment to say it was a feckin' miracle no-one was killed. I have no idea how many times I've been to this pub and used the toilets to find someone talking to their comatose friend in a conversation that goes something like:

"Reg... Wegoddago... Taxi's here..."
"Uhhh..."
REG! Geddup. Wegoddago Reg..."
"Uhhh..."

I imagine on the night of the fire there was a scene something like:

"Reg... Wegoddago... The place's burnin' down..."
"Uhh..."
"REG! Geddup. Place's fillin' with smoke..."
"Uhh..."

(/digression)

So my friend has a double lung full of insulation smoke and all the cute medical side-effects that entails. His dimwitted cousin tried to revive him with a Ventolin inhaler (I don't know if you Yanks have that, but it's a mild aspirator for relieving tight chests for asthmatics- it isn't for smoke inhalation victims). The ambulance crew told him to rack off while they tried to do their job.

So his cousin goes to his high-stung, drunken girlfriend and says, "Sorry, but he's dead... There's nothin' we can do."

So, of course, she goes off her nut -did I mention she was drunk?- and starts wailing, screaming, and shaking my poor friend's 'lifeless' body while the amublance crew are trying to make sure he really doesn't go to the next world.

I don't think I'd ever be a paramedic.