• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Saudi executioner tells all

zakur

Illuminator
Z
Joined
Aug 3, 2001
Messages
3,264
Saudi executioner tells all

Saudi Arabia's leading executioner says he is "very proud to do God's work" and does not lose sleep over beheading several people in one day.

In a rare interview, Muhammad Saad al-Beshi, 42, told the Saudi daily Arab News that he had executed numerous women, as well as men.

"Despite the fact that I hate violence against women, when it comes to God's will, I have to carry it out."

He expressed indifference about the number of beheadings he was required to carry out.

"It doesn't matter to me: two, four, 10 - as long as I'm doing God's will, it doesn't matter how many people I execute".

[...]

Mr Beshi said his sword was a gift from the government.

He keeps it razor sharp and sometimes his children help him clean it.

"People are amazed how fast it can separate the head from the body," he said.
Click to expand...
More:

Executioner proud to do "God's work" (Yahoo! News)

Saudi executioner story (Middle East Online)

Kingdom’s Leading Executioner Says: ‘I Lead a Normal Life’ (Arab News)
 
An executioner’s life, of course, is not all killing. Sometimes it can be amputation of hands and legs. “I use a special sharp knife, not a sword,” he explains. “When I cut off a hand I cut it from the joint. If it is a leg the authorities specify where it is to be taken off, so I follow that.”
Click to expand...

Arrr! If I met this guy I would kill him without a second's thought. I would f*cking kill this guy! Cutting off people's limbs with a knife, killing alcohol smugglers and women accused of cheating on their husbands. I guarantee I would kill him and spit on his dead body, then kick his face in. Piece of s*it.
 
I hear a really interesting inerview with the last French executioner about a year ago. He wrote his memoirs- very interesting. Wish I could remember his name and the name of the book. He did his job, and was quite satisfied by it, he did not consider himself a sadist.
 
Genghis Pwn said:


Arrr! If I met this guy I would kill him without a second's thought. I would f*cking kill this guy! Cutting off people's limbs with a knife, killing alcohol smugglers and women accused of cheating on their husbands. I guarantee I would kill him and spit on his dead body, then kick his face in. Piece of s*it.
Click to expand...
He sounds like a public servant, fullfilling the laws of his country. You, on the other hand, sound like a homicidal maniac.

If you want to be mad at somebody, get mad at the people who make the laws, not the people who enforce them.
 
How the hell am I going to go back in time and kill the "Prophet" Mohamed? No, this guy is using religion as an excuse for evil and murder. I would kill him in a second. Put me in the middle a desert with guy. I would pay good money for that chance.
 
Would you also kill people who use government as an excuse for murder?
 
renata, I am only speaking about this one case. Trust me, if this guy used a knife in cold blood to cut off your fathers feet or behead your husband or boyfriend, you might feel the same way. Evil on this scale is evil, I don't care how you justify it.
 
So electric chair is OK, and decapitation is not?

Do you know what drawn and quartered means?


Do you object to governments passign barbaric laws or to people who carry out edicts of said government?
 
What you object to is the law. And I agree with this. Those are brutal laws, but each country has the right to make it's own laws.

Many countries think that the US has barbaric laws because we allow executions. Using your logic, they would be completely justified in coming over here and killing the doctor who gave the lethal injection.
 
Tricky said:
What you object to is the law. And I agree with this. Those are brutal laws, but each country has the right to make it's own laws.

Many countries think that the US has barbaric laws because we allow executions. Using your logic, they would be completely justified in coming over here and killing the doctor who gave the lethal injection.
Click to expand...


I can always count on Tricky to say what I meant to say in a coherent manner :) Sometimes he does that before I even post!
 
Part of GP's point is that Mr. Muhammad Saad al-Beshi likes his job. He keeps it (his sword) razor sharp and sometimes his children help him clean it. He is a sick SOB. The planet would be better off without him.

Passage of barbaric laws and making a career of carrying out those laws are both evil.
 
fishbob said:
Part of GP's point is that Mr. Muhammad Saad al-Beshi likes his job. He keeps it (his sword) razor sharp and sometimes his children help him clean it.
Click to expand...


Would you rather he did his job with a dirty, rusty, blunt blade?
 
I wonder if they read this board..

I hope they do...'cos here's my application..




Dear Sirs,

I wish to apply for the post of Executioner. I am a raging psychopath, but alas, the laws in my country have made execution in Gods name, very sterile and humane.

I have my own set of "Divine" killing instruments which i bought from the local hardware store, so no probs there.

I have many new ideas for killing in Gods name and ideas for new laws that you may consider implementing, ie: Looking at womens underwear catalogues, Walking too fast....these could also be instant death penalty offences, couldnt they. See im just full of cruel and inhumane thoughts.

Im sure Allah would not object to modernisation; a chainsaw would make for far more spectacle than a sword...The noise...the fumes...I could wave it about a bit and wear a hockey mask whilst grabbing my crotch, all in Allahs name of course.

Anyway...Im off to sharpen my secatuers...(The cat done a ◊◊◊◊ on the carpet and im gonna amputate its front paws)

Yours

De_Allah_Ed Gein_ Jeffrey Dahmer_Mohammed_Bunk

(And if you think i wouldnt send that to the Saudi Embassy...Think again...In fact..i think i will....Stay tuned...)
 
I feel that executioners are just as guilty of murder as anyone else that has killed. If you are given a choice, the only choice an ethical person can say is "no"
 
Tricky said:
What you object to is the law. And I agree with this. Those are brutal laws, but each country has the right to make it's own laws.
Click to expand...

First of all, I have very mixed emotions about the US death penalty. But, there is a difference between lethal injection given to a convicted mass murderer who has exhauted the best legal system the world can produce at this time (often having more than 20 years's worth of appeals), and a woman having her head chopped off with a sword because she kissed her next door neighbor. The courts in Saudi Arabia are ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ compared to courts in the US and Europe.

As for each country being able to have it's own laws, no. You can't pass a law making slavery legal in this day and age. You will get invaded. Cutting off peoples' hands will not be tolerated any more.

Like I said, I feel very strongly about this, just as I would if South Africa tried to bring back brutal apartheid. If I knew of a South African army general executing blacks and chopping their limbs off, and using Christianity or "goverment laws" as his excuse, I would kill him too. I would f*ck him up, trust me!
 
Fade said:
I feel that executioners are just as guilty of murder as anyone else that has killed. If you are given a choice, the only choice an ethical person can say is "no"
Click to expand...
Noble sentiments, but people have different ways of defining "murder". Almost nobody defines killing in self defense (or defense of family) as murder. Few people describe soldiers killing in a war as murder. When it comes to lawful execution, then there is a bigger split, but still the majority in the world feel that execution is regrettable, but sometimes necessary.

We differ (widely) on what we think makes it necessary, hence, the Commission on Human Rights tries to set some definitions.
 
Genghis Pwn said:

First of all, I have very mixed emotions about the US death penalty. But, there is a difference between lethal injection given to a convicted mass murderer who has exhauted the best legal system the world can produce at this time (often having more than 20 years's worth of appeals), and a woman having her head chopped off with a sword because she kissed her next door neighbor. The courts in Saudi Arabia are ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ compared to courts in the US and Europe.
Click to expand...
There is no significant difference in the methods of execution. If anything, beheadding is quicker, if bloodier. But the result is the same. As I say, I strongly agree that the laws that Saudi Arabia uses to judge what is a "death penalty" offense are barbaric. It is ironic that the US has not used its friendship with the Saudis to try and coerce them to change the laws.

Nevertheless, the point still remains that the executioner is guilty of nothing but enforcing the law. Personally, I couldn't bring myself to give a lethal injection to the most horrible of murderers, but I agree that someone should. If that person takes pride in doing a quick, painless job, then that is probably good, since we need someone to do that job. Actually, you would seem to be a good person to be an executioner since you seem to have no problem with killing, then defiling the corpses. All we have to do is convince you they needed killing.

Genghis Pwn said:
As for each country being able to have it's own laws, no. You can't pass a law making slavery legal in this day and age. You will get invaded. Cutting off peoples' hands will not be tolerated any more.
Click to expand...
Countries can and do go to war over their conflicting laws. They hire killers to go over and kill as many of the enemy as they can. Some people call this "civilized". As I say, I despise the human rights violations in Saudi Arabia, and it sickens me that they are considered our great allies. But unless you are prepared to overthrow their government, then you cannot make their laws.

I have actually heard no reports of Saddam's government routinely performing amputations. If that is the case, does that mean that he is (or was) more civilized than the Saudis?

Genghis Pwn said:

Like I said, I feel very strongly about this, just as I would if South Africa tried to bring back brutal apartheid. If I knew of a South African army general executing blacks and chopping their limbs off, and using Christianity or "goverment laws" as his excuse, I would kill him too. I would f*ck him up, trust me!
Click to expand...
I am glad that you have such a high social consciousness, though it seems a bit at odds with your willingness to f*ck up, kill and defile those without your elevated sense of morality.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom