Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

[caniswalensis]

I am not sure what to make of this. The details are sparse, and I beleive it is unclear whether this woman was executed for sorcery, or for swindling people. It does not even say how she was executed. I hope it was not by stoning.

It staggers me to think of people being charged and put to death for being a witch in this day and age, though I know it happens.

I am not sure which reason would be worse for puting her to death.

http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-executes-woman-convicted-sorcery-132159048.html

Thoughts?

 

[Eddie Dane]

We should all chip in and buy Char a ticket to SA.

 

[Ryokan]

It staggers me to think of people being charged and put to death for being a witch in this day and age, though I know it happens.

Not surprising for a country that is morally stuck in the religious dark ages.

 

[caniswalensis]

Who's Char?

I would've said Silvia Brown, but I was trying to be all serious & stuff.

 

[Eddie Dane]

Who's Char?

I would've said Silvia Brown, but I was trying to be all serious & stuff.

Same difference.

Char is an American "medium" that has achieved quite some fame here in the Netherlands.

 

[caniswalensis]

Not surprising for a country that is morally stuck in the religious dark ages.

Maybe a little surprising, even if that is the case.

I see this as a failure of critical thinking, rather than morals and religion.

If you are going to kill someone for being an actual sorcerer, you should have some objective evidence that they are capable of and have used actual sorcery. Exactly the same as if it were any other crime. I am pretty sure they did not have that.

Even a fundamentalist who believes in sorcery, in a country that has sorcery laws on the books should be able to adhere to that standard.

What happens if we turn it around? Let's say sorcery was real, and you had rock solid evidence that someone had murdered another person using sorcery. Should they be charged with sorcery, or murder?

 

[caniswalensis]

Same difference.

Char is an American "medium" that has achieved quite some fame here in the Netherlands.

Oh. Well, maybe we should all ship our sorcerers to SA for disposal.

Then again, maybe not.

Sorcerers are people too. lets just fine the living XXXX out of them.

 

[IDB87]

If you are going to kill someone for being an actual sorcerer, you should have some objective evidence that they are capable of and have used actual sorcery.

You are of course implying that people who bring charges of sorcery against someone can deduce (our standards of) objective evidence.

 

[IDB87]

Oh. Well, maybe we should all ship our sorcerers to SA for disposal.

Then again, maybe not.

Sorcerers are people too. lets just fine the living XXXX out of them.

Ship the sorcerers to Saudi Arabia and ship the Mullahs to the moon.

 

[Eddie Dane]

Oh. Well, maybe we should all ship our sorcerers to SA for disposal.

Then again, maybe not.

Sorcerers are people too. lets just fine the living XXXX out of them.

Are you sure about that? Have you ever eaten with one?*






*Sorry, couldn't resist the Producers paraphrase.

 

[WildCat]

More evidence that Saudi Arabia is a barbaric feceshole.

 

[caniswalensis]

You are of course implying that people who bring charges of sorcery against someone can deduce (our standards of) objective evidence.

(bolding mine)

I would say it more like: “should be able to.” If someone cannot discern the nature & importance of objective evidence, they have no business working in a legal system.

Hey man, what is up with your avatar!? It’s horrifying!

 

[IDB87]

I would say it more like: “should be able to.” If someone cannot discern the nature & importance of objective evidence, they have no business working in a legal system.

That goes without saying though.

Hey man, what is up with your avatar!? It’s horrifying!

It's me every time I see a post in the occupy thread.

 

[caniswalensis]

That goes without saying though.

Not everywhere, I think.

 

[caniswalensis]

Update:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/

Beheaded! Yeesh! I wonder how? Please tell me they don't still use a sword!

Still no real word on if they really think she was capable of sorcery or if it was something else like scamming people or blasphemy.

Not sure if it matters.

 

[A'isha]

Beheaded! Yeesh! I wonder how? Please tell me they don't still use a sword!

They do.

 

[Eddie Dane]

Update:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/

Beheaded! Yeesh! I wonder how? Please tell me they don't still use a sword!
Still no real word on if they really think she was capable of sorcery or if it was something else like scamming people or blasphemy.

Not sure if it matters.

Maybe they can use a spoon when they get Sylvia.*





*No, I'm not serious

 

[caniswalensis]

They do.

Not good. So much opportunity for the condemmed to die in gruesome agony.

It says sometimes he uses a gun. Not any better, I think.

Not to mention the amputation of limbs.

 

[caniswalensis]

Maybe they can use a spoon when they get Sylvia.*





*No, I'm not serious

lol This made me thing of that scene in Indiana Jones where they have monkey brains for desert.

 

[funk de fino]

Executed for fraud by the looks of it. Barbaric and disgusting to say the least. But then so is any country who executes their citizens.