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Salmon Rushdie on "Extraordinary Rendition"

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Here is a guy you would think would know all about what is and is not justified in the WOT. Here is unambiguously against the new regime of global torture the US has created in recent years.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-outsourcing-of-evil/2006/01/09/1136771497796.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

BEYOND any shadow of a doubt, the ugliest phrase to enter the English language in 2005 was "extraordinary rendition". To those of us who love words, this phrase's brutalisation of meaning is an infallible signal of its intent to deceive.
"Extraordinary" is an ordinary enough adjective, but its sense is being stretched here to include more sinister meanings that your dictionary will not provide: "secret", "ruthless" and "extralegal".
As for "rendition", the English language permits four meanings: a performance, a translation, a surrender — this meaning is now considered archaic — or an "act of rendering", which leads us to the verb "to render", among whose 17 possible meanings you will not find "to kidnap and covertly deliver an individual or individuals for interrogation to an undisclosed address in an unspecified country where torture is permitted".
Language, too, has laws, and those laws tell us that this new American usage is improper — a crime against the word. Every so often the habitual Newspeak of politics throws up a term whose calculated blandness makes us shiver with fear — yes, and loathing.
"Clean words can mask dirty deeds," New York Times columnist William Safire wrote in 1993, in response to the arrival of another such phrase, "ethnic cleansing". "Final solution" is a further, even more horrible locution of this Orwellian, double-plus-ungood type. "Mortality response", a euphemism for death by killing that I first heard during the Vietnam War, is another. This is not a pedigree of which any newborn usage should be proud.
 
Here is a guy you would think would know all about what is and is not justified in the WOT. Here is unambiguously against the new regime of global torture the US has created in recent years.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-outsourcing-of-evil/2006/01/09/1136771497796.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
I have tried to avoid your blathering, but this is typical doodoo from your usual sources, not to mention yourself.

I love the thought that terrorists have to keep a lookout over their shoulder, wherever they are.

You love the thought that you can find yet another link that makes the US seem like the terrorist.

Been to the beach in your pristine paradise lately?
 
When you have a point to make, I'll listen.

My that was quick. Seems like you already listened. If you need the obvious explained, there are haters and there are rational critics. You have a problem not only with the US in general but also with what is presumably an elected government in your country that largely supports the US.

Seems to me that you think you should insult the foreigners, when I think you should stick to spewing your stuff against your own.
 
No, it's what the terrorists wanted to create when they crashed planes into the World Trade Towers.
 
My that was quick. Seems like you already listened. If you need the obvious explained, there are haters and there are rational critics. You have a problem not only with the US in general but also with what is presumably an elected government in your country that largely supports the US.

Seems to me that you think you should insult the foreigners, when I think you should stick to spewing your stuff against your own.

This is clearly a global issue, not a domestic US one. Salmon Rushdie has more reason than most to fear Islamic fundamentalism, is not a rabid anti US hater, yet is decidedly against this policy of the US.
 
This is clearly a global issue, not a domestic US one. Salmon Rushdie has more reason than most to fear Islamic fundamentalism, is not a rabid anti US hater, yet is decidedly against this policy of the US.

Your country's policy is then also part of the same issue. Insult your own more frequently if you want to be taken seriously.

I'm not debating Rushdie. He got his fame from the Ayatollah not from his boring prose.
 
Here is a guy you would think would know all about what is and is not justified in the WOT. Here is unambiguously against the new regime of global torture the US has created in recent years.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-outsourcing-of-evil/2006/01/09/1136771497796.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
"New regime of global torture". If you actually believe that, then you are so far out on the whacky left that I don't need to take you seriously. If you are just using hyperbole, then you aren't making a good argument, and I don't need to take you seriously.

By using statements such as "new regime of global torture", you aren't going to be taken seriously by someone that doesn't already agree with youi.
 
Your country's policy is then also part of the same issue. Insult your own more frequently if you want to be taken seriously.

I'm not debating Rushdie. He got his fame from the Ayatollah not from his boring prose.

John Howard is a gutless, sycophantic toadie, but only one person here has ever disagreed with me on that.

The policy is US policy, and it is run by the US. People have been picked up around the globe. It is truly amazing.
 
"death by killing"

Damn, that Salmon can write, can't he?

That being said, yes, we must reject "extraordinary rendition" for what it is, kidnapping and torture.
 
Here is a guy you would think would know all about what is and is not justified in the WOT.

Well, simply put, that's just not true. Rushdie is an author; he is to be listened to when he talks about literature. But the ayatollah's fatwa against him doesn't give him special insight or wisdom on politics, any more than--say--Noam Chomsky's linguistic achievements qualify him as a political analyst.

Let's consider the reverse. Suppose that a politician who had been under a fatwa by the ayatollahs for some political action says that, due to his experience, he is now qualified to tell authors how and why they should write when they write a novel about terrorism. Would you listen to him? Probably not.
 
This is clearly a global issue, not a domestic US one.

Is that relevant? It's not as if the bien pensant crowd had ever stopped from expressing their strong distaste of perfectly domestic US issues, either, from the death penalty to race relations to spending on health care. Their anger and outrage is not due to the US is doing something that is "a global issue", but simply because the US is doing something they disagree with.

Oh, BTW: Salmon Rushdie??? Is that William Flounder's friend?
 
By using statements such as "new regime of global torture", you aren't going to be taken seriously by someone that doesn't already agree with you.

Since when is that the goal of the "progressive left"? The real goal of holding their views is not to convince others they are wrong, but to convince themselves of their own moral superiority.
 
Freakshow and Skeptic: If your goal was to make me feel icky amd depressed, you succeeded.
 

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