Rwanda defintetly is attacking The DRC

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A group of about 100 Rwandan troops has been spotted inside the Democratic Republic of Congo in a first sighting by United Nations observers.

Thousands of civilians have been fleeing renewed fighting in the east.

The Congolese say more than 6,000 Rwandans have crossed the border and are attacking and burning villages.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4057739.stm

So the largest conflict since WWII continues.
 
Yeah, but they're just a bunch of ******* with no oil, who aren't in a strategically important part of the world, who aren't trying to fight off a political system which we view as a threat, who don't have any high profile friends (political or celebrity), who haven't threatened us in any way.

So I guess they come a long way down on our list of priorities.

IMO the international community should intervene but then getting involved in another person's fight is always akin to opening a can of worms.
 
DRC does have oil

I have to admit though, as stated in my previous thread on the topic, I'm wondering do the rwandans eat pygmies?
 
The Don said:
Yeah, but they're just a bunch of ******* with no oil, who aren't in a strategically important part of the world, who aren't trying to fight off a political system which we view as a threat, who don't have any high profile friends (political or celebrity), who haven't threatened us in any way.

So I guess they come a long way down on our list of priorities.

IMO the international community should intervene but then getting involved in another person's fight is always akin to opening a can of worms.

The fruits of European Imperialism.
 
c0rbin said:
The fruits of European Imperialism.

Not really. These tribal battles have been going on before europe really existed.
 
Damn shame. There is nothing, of course, to stop the western world buying into this, via the UN, and doing something to stop the fighting. It won't happen, though. Just as long as they stick to killing each other, it doesn't really matter.
 
a_unique_person said:
Damn shame. There is nothing, of course, to stop the western world buying into this, via the UN, and doing something to stop the fighting. It won't happen, though. Just as long as they stick to killing each other, it doesn't really matter.

What we can do is limited. Congo is big and cover in forest. The west is not going to be that welcome so think vietnam excapt the locals are already extreamly good at gerilla warfare and every country in the region wants to get involved.
On the other hand pygmies are getting eaten which is not good.
 
The Don said:
Yeah, but they're just a bunch of ******* with no oil ...
Oil is just sooooo not the future. (And it's absence is in the Congo basin is not proven.) The future is in minerals, particularly oddities like niobium and yttrium, which will feature in electronics and semi-conductors in the low-energy near-future. That's where Central Africa comes in. Naturally, the 20-stone gorilla of the day is obsessed with how things used to be.
 
geni said:
What we can do is limited. Congo is big and cover in forest. The west is not going to be that welcome so think vietnam excapt the locals are already extreamly good at gerilla warfare and every country in the region wants to get involved.

North America was covered in forest not that long ago, much of it now in the Grain Belt. What with climate change and advancing technology, Africa's day may yet come. And it may even be Africans who benefit.

On the other hand pygmies are getting eaten which is not good.
Good call. I'm with you there.
 
a_unique_person said:
Damn shame. There is nothing, of course, to stop the western world buying into this, via the UN, and doing something to stop the fighting. It won't happen, though. Just as long as they stick to killing each other, it doesn't really matter.
The nature of the UN means it can't deal with the fundamental problem - national borders and the very idea of the nation state imposed where it has no place. In a region where tribes overlap because of a complex history of migration, changing technologies, new religions and economic interactions with the outside world, the winner-takes-all state - where the largest tribe within the borders drawn recently by Europeans potentially gets all the cake - is not to anyone's benefit. A quite different model is needed.

But the UN is shackled by one of it's fundamental principles - no border shall ever change, never, no way, unless it absolutely can't be wished away.
 

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