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Rumsfeld drops his clanger!

Oddly enough this part of the speech was reported on the BBC and Reuters this morning but there's no mention of it on CNN or FoxNews*

What's that about?

Graham



* Though I didn't spend a HUGE amount of time checking so I stand ready to be corrected.
 
Duly noted.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3024359.stm

which helped set the agenda for the war against Iraq, has admitted to being surprised at the failure of US and British forces to find chemical weapons in Iraq.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies in London issued a report in September last year about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, saying that Iraq probably had "a few hundred tons" of mustard gas, precursors for other agents and VX gas from earlier stocks.

It was the first major report on Iraqi capabilities and proved helpful to Washington and London as they made their own cases against Iraq in the following weeks.

At the launching of its annual Strategic Survey, Dr Gary Samore, one of the experts who wrote the Iraq report, accepted that neither chemical weapons nor the munitions to deliver them had been found, nor were likely to be found in large quantities, despite the predictions of the IISS and the British and US governments.

"The absence of chemical weapons was a big surprise," he said.

Not taking Saddams side, but he is the kind of guy to like where he was before the war more than where he is now.
 
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Genghis Pwn said:
I assume that by posting this pic you are suggesting that this truck, in which no trace of chemical or biological weapons were found, but which could have been a mobile lab is a WMD? Not even the US is making that claim any more.

And I'm curious about your avatar. Is that a female impersonator? I really can't tell from the angle of the photo.
 
Yeah, posting pics of trailers is a good tactic, especially when the article is titled Insufficient Evidence

A U.S. intelligence report on the trailers, portions of which were read to ABCNEWS, said: "Biological weapons agent production is the only consistent, logical purpose for these vehicles."

I'd claim researcher bias, but I'm biased...

After Powell had made his presentation on such trailers in February, the Iraqis said they had mobile labs, but they were not used for weapons.
Such mobile labs were used for food analysis for disease outbreaks, mobile field hospitals, a military field bakery, food and medicine refrigeration trucks, a mobile military morgue and mobile ice making trucks, Iraqi officials said.
Ewen Buchanan, spokesman for the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, said inspectors visited a number of the labs at several sites but found no evidence of chemical or biological weapons activity.
"The outline and characteristics of these trucks that we inspected were all consistent with the declared purposes," Buchanan told The AP, adding extensive forensic sampling had been performed.
 
Jon_in_london said:
Oops!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2940580.stm



But never mind, we'll be invading Iran soon, so you wont have time to consider the implication of this.........


Sorry.. It doesn't really seem like a good idea to put the Hussein regime back in power..


Oh, well.. On to the next murderous despot.. WMDs seems like a pretty good exuse to start with... ( Hey, might as well stick with what works....)
 
Diogenes, I think its a good thing Saddam has been taken out. He was a fooking cnut and deserved it. But Im worried about things when we go to war to get those evil WMDs and then a month or two later one of our(your) beloved leaders basically admits that they never existed. Doesnt this disturb you?

War on Iran = Weapon of mass distraction.
 
Re: Re: Rumsfeld drops his clanger!

Diogenes said:



Oh, well.. On to the next murderous despot..

Naah, let's just vote him out.

Your Scoutmaster is gay.
 
LOL at Saddam building those mobile labratories to help his people with "disease outbreaks, mobile field hospitals, a military field bakery, food and medicine refrigeration trucks, a mobile military morgue and mobile ice making trucks."

Haha. Yeah, sure.

In time the truth will come out about Saddam's WMD programs. Until then, I suggest you bite your tongues, Bush haters.

Whoever asked about my av, no that is not a tranny, you sicko. :o
 
Genghis Pwn said:
LOL at Saddam building those mobile labratories to help his people with "disease outbreaks, mobile field hospitals, a military field bakery, food and medicine refrigeration trucks, a mobile military morgue and mobile ice making trucks."

Haha. Yeah, sure.
But the simple fact remains that there is no trace of chemical or biological weapons. They either were for some other purpose, or the weapons were destroyed, as demanded.

Genghis Pwn said:
In time the truth will come out about Saddam's WMD programs. Until then, I suggest you bite your tongues, Bush haters.
With all the "evidence" for their existance, one would think they would have been found easily. And yet the clock ticks away. Many pro-war advocates have already abandoned the "WMD reason" for the war and now started claiming it was about human rights.

Genghis Pwn said:
Whoever asked about my av, no that is not a tranny, you sicko. :o
It was me. And I was just curious. The person is not very "curvy" and seems to be protecting her adams-apple region. I would not hold it against you if you find female impersonators attractive. To each his own.
 
Jon_in_london said:
Diogenes, I think its a good thing Saddam has been taken out. He was a fooking cnut and deserved it. But Im worried about things when we go to war to get those evil WMDs and then a month or two later one of our(your) beloved leaders basically admits that they never existed. Doesnt this disturb you?



Exactly why are you worried? Do you suspect The U.S. is planning on starting it's own evil empire?

And no, it doesn't disturb me.. It sounded good at the time, and like you say: " I think its a good thing Saddam has been taken out. He was a fooking cnut and deserved it. "
 
Anyone else catch that Rumsfeld had the Whopper of the Week in Slate?

For those of you who may have missed, here you go.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2083532/

"I don't believe anyone that I know in the administration ever said that Iraq had nuclear weapons."

—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, at a hearing of the Senate's appropriations subcommittee on defense, May 14

"We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."

—Vice President Dick Cheney on NBC's Meet the Press, March 16
 
"I don't believe anyone that I know in the administration ever said that Iraq had nuclear weapons." —Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, May 14

"We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." —Vice President Dick Cheney, March 16

Rumsfeld is not lying if he actually BELIEVES it was never said.
 
Ladewig said:


Rumsfeld is not lying if he actually BELIEVES it was never said.

Of course not and I ask all to behold the true mark of back-pedaling!

After some 100 billion dollars has been spent,
Hundreds, perhaps thousands, have been killed,
Billions more and years to rebuild,

Now comes the arguing over fine points of meaning.
 
Diogenes said:



Exactly why are you worried? Do you suspect The U.S. is planning on starting it's own evil empire?

And no, it doesn't disturb me.. It sounded good at the time, and like you say: " I think its a good thing Saddam has been taken out. He was a fooking cnut and deserved it. "

Imagine Joe hates bob because bob is a cnut. Then one day joe cant find his wallet. Blaming it on bob and accussing bob of theft of the aforementioned article- joe beats bob to death.

Fair enough, bob was a cnut and a he stole joes wallet. But hold on! wheres joe's wallet? bob doesnt have it does he! Oops (analogy in danger of breaking down completely).

Doesnt it disturb you that your government has misled you?
 

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