Ron Paul? What are your thoughts?

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Here and there I have sampled some of the opinions of the Texas congressman here on JREF. This is a question I meant to ask when I first joined this forum back in 2009 but I was afraid to ask because I was still somewhat in Ron Paul "la-la" land at that point. What are your views about Congressman Paul?

As for how I feel... I did vote for him in the primaries in 2008, I'm still glad that I did even though the support of the truth movement now puts a bad taste in the back of my mouth. He is a frequent guest on Alex Jones which doesn't sit well with me either however I think that when Mr. Paul has an opportunity to air himself on Texas radio and make his constituency feel all warm and fuzzy it's easier for him to hit up Alex Jones than it is someone like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Other than that, as with any politician, I think he has his faults and he has his strong points. One of those strong points being his take on foreign policy and how we should deal with middle eastern countries through diplomacy and not through declaring wars anytime something goes wrong.

Yes, we had to do something about 9/11 yet I don't think declaring war with Iraq was necessary.

Thoughts? Observations?
 
I misread the thread title, and thought you were asking what Ron Paul's thoughts were. I was ready for a very short thread.

The last I read of Paul's foreign policy he was essentially isolationist. Has that changed somehow? I go with, 'stopped clock right twice a day' for most of the common ground I have with Paul. It's almost always the case that when I agree with his policy suggestion, I disagree with his reasoning. Of course I'm not exactly a Paul expert. This should be an entertaining thread.
 
Lunatic who gets too close to neo-Nazis and conspiracy theorists. The Ronulan phenomenon is the strangest personality cult I've seen since Lyndon Larouche.
 
tyr_13 said:
I misread the thread title, and thought you were asking what Ron Paul's thoughts were. I was ready for a very short thread.

The last I read of Paul's foreign policy he was essentially isolationist. Has that changed somehow? I go with, 'stopped clock right twice a day' for most of the common ground I have with Paul. It's almost always the case that when I agree with his policy suggestion, I disagree with his reasoning. Of course I'm not exactly a Paul expert. This should be an entertaining thread.
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He will most likely NOT get my vote come 2012. That is, if he runs.

However, I forgot to mention that I am still a card carrying member of the Campaign for Liberty even though my activities there have petered out and I really don't show any interest for future activity especially since Rand Paul is now involved.

I did have an opportunity to do an interview for a humanities course with one of the local chapter organizers of C4L and we got into a conversation about 9/11 Truth and the 9/11 Truth Movement. He wasn't even aware there was such a group. However he told me he has had people show up at his rallies shouting things like "Death to the New World Order" and other CT-type phrases that don't sit to well with their organizers. He told me people like that are never invited back.
 
I listened to his hour-long Diane Rehm segment during the primaries.
My impression at the time? Lunatic.
 
dc1971 said:
Yes, we had to do something about 9/11 yet I don't think declaring war with Iraq was necessary.

Thoughts? Observations?
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Many, many people, including the current POTUS, didn't think declaring war with Iraq was a necessary or correct response to 9/11. Most of these people managed to have these thoughts and still not put out racist newsletters, accept money from Stormfront, hang with Alex Jones, and rant about gold and the Fed everytime they got near a camera, along with associated nutbaggery.
 
Ausmerican said:
Many, many people, including the current POTUS, didn't think declaring war with Iraq was a necessary or correct response to 9/11. Most of these people managed to have these thoughts and still not put out racist newsletters, accept money from Stormfront, hang with Alex Jones, and rant about gold and the Fed everytime they got near a camera, along with associated nutbaggery.
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However, he founded the Campaign for Liberty. Do you think that members of this organization, such as the guy I interviewed, might be naive to Ron Paul's background?
 
Ausmerican said:
Many, many people, including the current POTUS, didn't think declaring war with Iraq was a necessary or correct response to 9/11. Most of these people managed to have these thoughts and still not put out racist newsletters, accept money from Stormfront, hang with Alex Jones, and rant about gold and the Fed everytime they got near a camera, along with associated nutbaggery.
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Also...

Yes, there were many people who thought going into Iraq was a bad idea yet these people (politicians) let us go in anyway.
 
dc1971 said:
However, he founded the Campaign for Liberty. Do you think that members of this organization, such as the guy I interviewed, might be naive to Ron Paul's background?
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The fact that his followers are naive dupes doesn't mean he's not a nutcase.
 
dc1971 said:
He is a frequent guest on Alex Jones which doesn't sit well with me either however I think that when Mr. Paul has an opportunity to air himself on Texas radio and make his constituency feel all warm and fuzzy it's easier for him to hit up Alex Jones than it is someone like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity.
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That is not a valid reason to associate with a professional chucklehead like Alex Jones.
 
I truly can't remember anything the man said during the interview. I just remember that my overall impression of him was that he was not making sense.
Much the same way I can't recall any of the particular statements that Grover Norquist made during HIS hour... But I recall thinking that perhaps he didn't live in the same universe as the rest of us.....
 
"associating with" and "appearing with" are not quite the same.

In some cases allegiance or agreement is implied, in others it's more of a confrontation, debate, or just airing a different point of view.
 
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"associating with" and "appearing with" are not quite the same.

In some cases allegiance or agreement is implied, in others it's more of a confrontation, debate, or just airing a different point of view.
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Agreed. Both Art Bell and Alex Jones promote woo. The former allows differing viewpoints on his show, the latter does not.
 
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