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Cont: Rioters storm and occupy the US Capitol - part 2

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There are proposals for a Covid Commission, modeled on the 9/11 Commission, and does anyone doubt that it would be a good idea?

Is there yet, or will there be, a January 6 Commission? Again, does anyone doubt that it would be a good, a very good idea?

And not directed by Henry Kissmyass.

Continued from here.

You can quote or reply to posts from that part of the thread here, but do not continue any of the bickering or off-topic derails.
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Please return to the topic under discussion, rather than splitting the atom or hairs. Thank you.
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carlitos said:
Just a friendly reminder that caveman1917 was the one who made a claim:



Are they now saying that they made this claim without knowing whether it was true or not?

Question - exactly how many (a number please) of these people have only been charged with entering or remaining on capitol grounds?

The answer to this question will be a number between 0 and 400.
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Minor correction: The range is currently 0 to 441

The answer to your question is seven, they are

Michael Daughtrey (GA)
Rachael Genco (PA)
Jeffrey Grace (WA)
William Pepe (NY)
Mark Simon (CA)
Paul Spigelmeyer (PA)
Zachary Wilson (no state given)

That's it at this time 7 out of 441.... "almost all of them" if you listen to caveman1917
 
smartcooky said:
Minor correction: The range is currently 0 to 441

The answer to your question is seven, they are

Michael Daughtrey (GA)
Rachael Genco (PA)
Jeffrey Grace (WA)
William Pepe (NY)
Mark Simon (CA)
Paul Spigelmeyer (PA)
Zachary Wilson (no state given)

That's it at this time 7 out of 441.... "almost all of them" if you listen to caveman1917
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It's just sad really, and that's not even mentioning that those new charges are just variations of the old one - as if adding "Demonstrating and picketing in the Capitol" changes much over "Entering or remaining on restricted grounds." Seriously, like what are you expecting here? That I'd agree that, while it's not justified to shoot people for "entering or remaining on restricted grounds", it is justified to shoot people for "demonstrating or picketing in the Capitol"?
 
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caveman1917 said:
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Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.


It's just sad really, and that's not even mentioning that those new charges are just variations of the old one - as if adding "Demonstrating and picketing in the Capitol" changes much over "Entering or remaining on restricted grounds." Seriously, like what are you expecting here? That I'd agree that, while it's not justified to shoot people for "entering or remaining on restricted grounds", it is justified to shoot people for "demonstrating or picketing in the Capitol"?
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What is really sad is that EVERYONE ELSE understood exactly what I meant, including people whose first language is not English, and you are the sole person who interpreted it your unique way, and yet you STILL won't accept that you were wrong. Your ability to double down on wrong is breathtaking.

I could not let your continued lying go unchallenged, but this is the last post I will make on this subject as we have been instructed by the Mods to stop.

ETA: It wasn't a continued discussion from AAH. Carlitos asked a valid question and I gave him/her a valid answer
 
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Some posters here have attempted to muddy the waters so much, that there needs to be clarification as to just how serious the charges against these insurrectionists are.

This is the numbers of serious offence charges offences related to the January 6 Insurrection at the Capitol. And to make this absolutely clear, so that there can be no "misunderstanding" the meaning of what I am posting, some people have been charged with more that one of these serious offences.

Assault against Enforcement officers 29
Assault against Enforcement officers with a Dangerous weapon 20
Engaging in Physical Violence 92
Possession of Dangerous Weapons 118
Violent Entry 146
Obstructing an official proceeding 162
Conspiracy to commit the charges against them 30
Tampering with Official Documents 12
Theft of Government Property 19
 
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So you're saying that around half of them being charged with a violent crime is a lot like "almost all" of them not being charged with a violent crime. Pretty sneaky.
 
Can't remember seeing this (although the previous thread kind of got out of control for a while)....

From: Politico
A federal judge is demanding that a Pennsylvania woman arrested for her alleged role in the Capitol riot, Rachel Powell, explain why a video of her circulating online shows her wearing a porous, mesh mask despite another judge’s order to comply with Covid mask requirements while she awaits trial.
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Powell was known in her community as a vehement anti-masker before her participation in the Jan. 6 events. A February New Yorker article chronicled her long history of flouting mask requirements, even once boasting on Facebook that she’s “unashamedly a ‘super spreader.’”

Kind of checks all the boxes for being a moron, doesn't she.... completely reprehensible human being.
 
I love (massive sarcasm) how much stuff the Right is doing that every alt-right troll on this board would have screamed "Oh that's such a strawman!" at if we had used it even as a joking hypothetical even a year or so ago.

"Literally on the side of the deadly pandemic."
 
JoeMorgue said:
I love (massive sarcasm) how much stuff the Right is doing that every alt-right troll on this board would have screamed "Oh that's such a strawman!" at if we had used it even as a joking hypothetical even a year or so ago.

"Literally on the side of the deadly pandemic."
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I feel for the writers at The Onion. Their best bit is republishing old stories about is not dealing with the same issue every time it comes up. Truly original content is just too hard in this environment.
 
smartcooky said:
Some posters here have attempted to muddy the waters so much, that there needs to be clarification as to just how serious the charges against these insurrectionists are.

This is the numbers of serious offence charges offences related to the January 6 Insurrection at the Capitol. And to make this absolutely clear, so that there can be no "misunderstanding" the meaning of what I am posting, some people have been charged with more that one of these serious offences.

Assault against Enforcement officers 29
Assault against Enforcement officers with a Dangerous weapon 20
Engaging in Physical Violence 92
Possession of Dangerous Weapons 118
Violent Entry 146
Obstructing an official proceeding 162
Conspiracy to commit the charges against them 30
Tampering with Official Documents 12
Theft of Government Property 19
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I'm surprised that every single one of them hasn't been charged with obstructing an official proceeding in addition to other charges. That was in fact the rioters' stated intention: to stop Congress from confirming the presidential election. And it appears to be a felony, punishable by five years in prison.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1505
 
I think it's because Prosecutors are trying to keep this as apolitical as possible - after all, certifying an election the GOP lost is the same as partisan trickery.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I think it's because Prosecutors are trying to keep this as apolitical as possible - after all, certifying an election the GOP lost is the same as partisan trickery.
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Yeah and that's exactly what the Right is counting on.

They've made "reality" a partisan issue, so they can scream "But you're just being partisan!" whenever anyone tries to enforce "reality" as a concept.

For proof see every political discussion on this board for the last few years.
 
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