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Reverse Seal of the United States

NikZeta302

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The Reverse Seal of the United States has existed with us since the Front Seal, flag, apple-pie and other things, then why do all the national-isolationist CTists see it as sign of our lose of national sovereignty to the Illuminati(or Masions/NWO/Jews/Skull and Bones/the Vatican/UN)?
 
The Reverse Seal of the United States has existed with us since the Front Seal, flag, apple-pie and other things, then why do all the national-isolationist CTists see it as sign of our lose of national sovereignty to the Illuminati(or Masions/NWO/Jews/Skull and Bones/the Vatican/UN)?

Because it's different. Same as any other irrational fear.
 
The Reverse Seal of the United States has existed with us since the Front Seal, flag, apple-pie and other things, then why do all the national-isolationist CTists see it as sign of our lose of national sovereignty to the Illuminati(or Masions/NWO/Jews/Skull and Bones/the Vatican/UN)?

In Masonic and Qabalist symbolism the phrases Annuit Coeptis and Novus Ordo Seclorum represent the capstone of the pyramid and its base, pictured between them. The base is the NWO bit, a state of all the world being together in one direction. The numerology of the Latin phrase is 220. The capstone and all-seeing eye motif represent the developed pineal gland that esoteric traditions revere as the Philosopher's Stone of Alchemy. They believe that when the whole body is developed correctly, whether as an individual or, on the macrocosm, as the world, the pineal gland opens and one's awareness is returned to a pre-Fallen state where causality is directly perceived. Trying to get this to happen they call The Great Work.

The pineal is usually called The Stone or, in Hebrew, ahben - meaning Father-Son. It's numerology is 53. Together the base and the capstone equal 273, the number of Khurum Abiv, or Hiram Abif, the mythological founder of Freemasonry.

Check it with a mason.

The emblem refers back to the Founding Fathers status as Freemasons, and to their goal of created a single world culture based upon the values they established when they founded America.

Nick
 
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How do you get from ahben to 53?

In Hebrew ahben is Aleph Beth Nun (ABN) - 1 + 2 + 50.

AB = father
BN = son

Christian phrases like Jesus saying "I and my Father are One" reflect the more unified state of awareness conferred upon he or she who has developed the pineal gland - the stone.


Nick
 
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the seal of the United States the bald eagle holding a laurel branch in one claw and a bunch of arrows in the other claw? The pyramid is something different.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the seal of the United States the bald eagle holding a laurel branch in one claw and a bunch of arrows in the other claw? The pyramid is something different.

flip side!

btw, the reverse side signifies more the hidden agenda, the bit that's not obvious to the eye
 
What, it has a secret decoder ring? Does it outline my plan for world domination, ruling from Acme Labs? Does it spell out in forgotten languages exactly how the NWO is going to brainwash us all?
Or is it a bunch of symbols whose meanings are exactly what they were said to be, and paranoid fantasists have assigned meanings to them that was never intended?

Hmm. Wonder which one makes more sense? Tough call, this one...
 
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What, it has a secret decoder ring? Does it outline my plan for world domination, ruling from Acme Labs? Does it spell out in forgotten languages exactly how the NWO is going to brainwash us all?
Or is it a bunch of symbols whose meanings are exactly what they were said to be, and paranoid fantasists have assigned meanings to them that was never intended?

Hmm. Wonder which one makes more sense? Tough call, this one...

Ask a Freemason what the reverse side of the Great Seal means. There are millions of them. It's not such a big secret. And it's not a bad thing. The Novus Ordo Seclorem, not-so-well translated as New World Order, was the ideal towards which they worked, a unified world. It's not a negative thing at all. The founding fathers were Freemasons. This was their hidden agenda, (that's why the pyramid is on the flip side of the Seal) - to create a prototype for world culture and then expand it across the globe.

Nick
 
I always thought it was James Mason who designed it. That was before he built the house on Mt. Rushmore and tried to kill Cary Grant...
 
Ask a Freemason what the reverse side of the Great Seal means. There are millions of them. It's not such a big secret. And it's not a bad thing. The Novus Ordo Seclorem, not-so-well translated as New World Order, was the ideal towards which they worked, a unified world. It's not a negative thing at all. The founding fathers were Freemasons. This was their hidden agenda, (that's why the pyramid is on the flip side of the Seal) - to create a prototype for world culture and then expand it across the globe.

Nick
The phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782 and printed on the back of the American dollar bill since 1935. The phrase also appears on the coat of arms of the Yale School of Management, Yale University's business school. The phrase is often mistranslated as "New World Order," but the Latin for that phrase would be Novus Ordo Mundi.
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The phrase is taken from the fourth Eclogue of Virgil, which contains a passage (lines 5-8) that reads:
Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas; magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo. iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna, iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto. "The last time of prophecy has come to the Cumaean Sibyl; a brand new great order of the ages is born; for now the Virgin and the age of Saturn have returned; now a new Child has been sent from the heavens." The forms saecla, saeclorum etc. were normal alternatives to the more common saecula etc. throughout the history of Latin poetry and prose. The form saeculorum is impossible in hexameter verse: the ae and o are long, the u short by position. For the medieval exchange between ae, æ and e, see Æ; medieval is another example.
Medieval Christians read Virgil's poem as a prophecy of the coming of Christ.
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Thus the motto Novus Ordo Seclorum can be translated as "A new order of the ages." It was proposed by Charles Thomson, the Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal of the United States, to signify "the beginning of the new American Era" as of the date of the Declaration of Independence.
Novus Ordo SeclorumWP
 
I must demand you cease discussion of the secrets of the seal, lest the masses figure it out.

TUBALCAINE!
 
The phrase is taken from the fourth Eclogue of Virgil, which contains a passage (lines 5-8) that reads:
Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas; magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo. iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna, iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto. "The last time of prophecy has come to the Cumaean Sibyl; a brand new great order of the ages is born; for now the Virgin and the age of Saturn have returned; now a new Child has been sent from the heavens." The forms saecla, saeclorum etc. were normal alternatives to the more common saecula etc. throughout the history of Latin poetry and prose. The form saeculorum is impossible in hexameter verse: the ae and o are long, the u short by position. For the medieval exchange between ae, æ and e, see Æ; medieval is another example.
Medieval Christians read Virgil's poem as a prophecy of the coming of Christ.
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Yes, it's a Utopian phrase. The Novus Ordo Seclorum is a period of peace and prosperity brought about through world harmony. Some commentators on the Biblical book of Daniel believed that the "beginning of the end" of the "Age of Gentiles," a time of strife and war, would commence in 1776, the year of American Independence, also marked on the Great Seal's pyramid.

Nick
 

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