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Religious Right, the US taliban???

Tmy

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Tmy
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How often do we here about Muslim extremists running these arab countries, and how thats a bad idea because the rights of the people are trammpled because of religious dogma.

Well look around cause thi is happening in the US. Amendments to ban gay marriage, stem cell research bans, 10 commandments in the courts, FCC and the decency police.

Heres a story about some Congressmen who live almost rent free in a posh DC home sponcered by some religious group.

Senator Brownback recently took it apon himslef to write a letter to Infiny broadcasting to bitch about Howard Stern.

Fellowship finances townhouse where 6 congressmen live



The lawmakers, all of whom are Christian, pay low rent to live in the stately red brick, three-story house on C Street, two blocks from the Capitol. It is maintained by a group, alternately known as the ''Fellowship'' and the ''Foundation,'' that brings together world leaders and elected officials through religion.


Imagine the flack if they were jews. And people just love to bitch about the black caucus.
 
In the article:

Lawmakers living under religion's roof isn't necessarily problematic, Lynn said, ''as long as there are no sweetheart deals that are being made that could trade low rent for access.''
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But earlier in the article:

''Our goal is singular — and that is to hope that we can assist them in better understandings of the teachings of Christ, and applying it to their jobs,'' said Richard Carver, a member of the Fellowship's board of directors.
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Smells like "access", tastes like "access", feels like "access".....;)
 
I have difficulty getting my head round the implication of the title of this thread. I'm reminded of a recent observation on the subject by Mark Steyn:
You get the picture: Sure, Muslim fundamentalists can be pretty extreme, but what about all our Christian fundamentalists? Unfortunately, for the old moral equivalence to hold up, the Christians really need to get off their fundamentalist butts and start killing more people. At the moment, the brilliantly versatile Muslim fundamentalists are gunning down Maryland schoolkids and bus drivers, hijacking Moscow musicals, self-detonating in Israeli pizza parlours, blowing up French oil tankers in Yemen, and slaughtering nightclubbers in Bali, while Christian fundamentalists are, er, sounding extremely strident in their calls for the return of prayer in school.
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No the so-called religious right is not the US Taliban. When they start patrolling the streets armed with automatic weapons looking for people who are violating god's "holy laws" THEN it would be safe to say they are the US Taliban.
 
ceo_, the religious nuts in this country can do it without killing people. Otherwise, no real difference.

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" ~~Jerry Falwell, quoted in Bollier, 1984

(These folks want us to) Look! Over there! *points to Afghanistan*
 
No Answers said:
ceo_, the religious nuts in this country can do it without killing people. Otherwise, no real difference.
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To me, that's such a huge difference that it makes dwelling on the similarities something of an inefficient use of time and thought.
 
As someone who was part of group looking at human rights abuses in Afghanistan at my university, I would recommend you delete this thread. You obviously have no idea the atrocities they committed.
 
corplinx said:
As someone who was part of group looking at human rights abuses in Afghanistan at my university, I would recommend you delete this thread. You obviously have no idea the atrocities they committed.
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Oh lighten up. Im just using the term to note the religion/govt ties.

Geez how about we delete every analogy on the board.
 
Tmy said:
How often do we here about Muslim extremists running these arab countries, and how thats a bad idea because the rights of the people are trammpled because of religious dogma.

Well look around cause thi is happening in the US. Amendments to ban gay marriage, stem cell research bans, 10 commandments in the courts, FCC and the decency police.
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Your argument is specious and presumptious in light of evidence to the contrary. It is true that there are a number of similiarties that can be made. The religious right are conservative and by definition resist change. The religious right also want government to intercede more in the issues you enumerated. As a libertarian I oppose the religious right in these areas.

But you are making an unfounded slipery slope argument. I suppose that the "Taliban" is going to replace or complement "Nazi" and facism as the new base of comparison for internet fora.
 
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RandFan said:
Your argument is specious and presumptious in light of evidence to the contrary. It is true that there are a number of similiarties that can be made. The religious right are conservative and by definition resist change. The religious right also want government to intercede more in the issues you enumerated. As a libertarian I oppose the religious right in these areas.

But you are making an unfounded slipery slope argument. I suppose that the "Taliban" is going to replace or complement "Nazi" and facism as the new base of comparison for internet fora.
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Well they both want to run the country based on God/Allahs law rather than the will of the people. Am I wrong on that?
 
Well, Christian Reconstructionists like the late R.J. Rushdoony, want to replace "heretical" deomocracy with a theocracy. Following strict adherance to Leviticus, they would readily put to death people accused of all sorts of sins, including heresy. Unfortunately, religious extremists seem to be gaining more influence with politicians and the media.
 
The evils of injecting religion into any government are the same regardless of where. For the nitpickers, of course there is a matter of degree, but for every brick in the wall of seperation taken away there is a corresponding loss to democracy.
The calls to make this a Christian nation amount to nothing more than acting like the ones they hate.
 
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