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Rape victim to be executed in Iran

JLam

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This is disgusting.

TEHRAN -- An 18-year-old Iranian woman who killed a man that she said tried to rape her has been sentenced to death for murder, according to a press report on Saturday.

The woman identified only as Nazanin claimed self-defense during her trial after she stabbed a man to death in March 2005, the Etemad newspaper reported.

It said that Nazanin, who was 17 at the time, had been out with her niece and their boyfriends on a road west of Tehran when two men started harassing them and then tried to rape them after the boyfriends had run away.

"I committed murder to defend myself and my niece, I did not mean to kill him. I did not know what to do because nobody came to help us," the paper quoted her as saying during her trial.
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Capital offenses in Iran include murder, rape, armed robbery, apostasy, blasphemy, serious drug trafficking, repeated sodomy, adultery or prostitution, treason and espionage.
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Gotta love those wacky Iranians.
 
JLam said:
This is disgusting.

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Gotta love those wacky Iranians.
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I'm certainly not going to sing any praise of the Iranian judical system, but it's worth pointing out that the article only provides the woman's side of things. It might be that the Iranian court had a good reason for dismissing her claim of self defense.

That said, I do not believe death penalty, or flagellation or other severe physical punishments, is acceptable under any circumstances in peace time.
 
Gang rapes of women by soldiers in the Sudan are happening so often it's no longer shocking. The girls who are assalted are promptly shunned by their community and left with nothing. And these girls haven't killed the men that attacked them. They've been violated, so they are considered worthless.

Iran makes the headlines because we are getting the early ground work to hate them so we'll be supportive of an attack against their country.

I predict many more stories like this in the upcoming months. It doesn't make what is happening to the girl in the story right... (agreed, we don't even know the full account) but it sure is suspicious that suddenly we're hearing about such a story when it's NOT new to their judicial system...
 
Jitterbuggery said:
Gang rapes of women by soldiers in the Sudan are happening so often it's no longer shocking. The girls who are assalted are promptly shunned by their community and left with nothing. And these girls haven't killed the men that attacked them. They've been violated, so they are considered worthless.

Iran makes the headlines because we are getting the early ground work to hate them so we'll be supportive of an attack against their country.

I predict many more stories like this in the upcoming months. It doesn't make what is happening to the girl in the story right... (agreed, we don't even know the full account) but it sure is suspicious that suddenly we're hearing about such a story when it's NOT new to their judicial system...
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Look at the link.
 
Jitterbuggery said:
Gang rapes of women by soldiers in the Sudan are happening so often it's no longer shocking. The girls who are assalted are promptly shunned by their community and left with nothing. And these girls haven't killed the men that attacked them. They've been violated, so they are considered worthless.

Iran makes the headlines because we are getting the early ground work to hate them so we'll be supportive of an attack against their country.

I predict many more stories like this in the upcoming months. It doesn't make what is happening to the girl in the story right... (agreed, we don't even know the full account) but it sure is suspicious that suddenly we're hearing about such a story when it's NOT new to their judicial system...
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The stories are not more common, you're just noticing them more because Iran is more in your consciousness than it has been before.
 
Jitterbuggery said:
Gang rapes of women by soldiers in the Sudan are happening so often it's no longer shocking. The girls who are assalted are promptly shunned by their community and left with nothing. And these girls haven't killed the men that attacked them. They've been violated, so they are considered worthless.

Iran makes the headlines because we are getting the early ground work to hate them so we'll be supportive of an attack against their country.

I predict many more stories like this in the upcoming months. It doesn't make what is happening to the girl in the story right... (agreed, we don't even know the full account) but it sure is suspicious that suddenly we're hearing about such a story when it's NOT new to their judicial system...
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Excellent points, Jitterbuggery. This type of story was fairly commonplace in Kosovo too, yet we hardly heard anything about it. I'm glad someone is skeptical of the "news stories" coming out of Iran and the reasons we're hearing about them at all. It amazes me to no end that our government would plant "optimistic" stories in Iraqi newspapers, yet when stories like these are emphasized about a country we're trying to de-humanize, people don't stop long enough to ask WHY this is "news" in a country that has routinely engaged in vicious sexism in the name of religion.

P.S. Welcome to the forum. :)
 
Gang rapes by Russian soldiers in Germany the final days of WW2 were common also. It was condoned and even indulged in by Russian officers. So perhaps we should condemn Russia as a whole, and see how many points need to be tallied before action is required there too...

My point being that rape, and gang rape, is a common atrocity across boundaries and time. The response of the Iranian judiciary is merely a public expose of typical 13th century thinking on how to deal with the issue. Doesn't mean I condone the practice or their decision, which are both appallingly disgusting, but sheeting "blame" home to Iran alone is completely misguided.
 
a_unique_person said:
I was talking to an Iranian a month ago. He said we get the wrong impression over here, that most Iranians are very nice people. He is just not too keen on the extremists.
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Most Iranians may be. In fact, I happen to know a very nice Iranian at work. But I am more worried about their government. When "the extremists" run the place, we have big problems. Such as we are experiencing with Iran now...
 
Hang on a minute.

There is no evidence that this is part of conspiracy of planting negative stories in western media to justify war against Iran. This is a link to an article from a newspaper based in Cyprus.

Posters should also remember that no one on this thread has used this story to justify attacking Iran. Some of the comments are bordering on ad hom. attacks.
 
Jitterbuggery said:
Gang rapes of women by soldiers in the Sudan are happening so often it's no longer shocking. The girls who are assalted are promptly shunned by their community and left with nothing. And these girls haven't killed the men that attacked them. They've been violated, so they are considered worthless.

Iran makes the headlines because we are getting the early ground work to hate them so we'll be supportive of an attack against their country.

I predict many more stories like this in the upcoming months. It doesn't make what is happening to the girl in the story right... (agreed, we don't even know the full account) but it sure is suspicious that suddenly we're hearing about such a story when it's NOT new to their judicial system...
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You've never heard stories like this about Islamic societies before? This is not new.
 
a_unique_person said:
He was a very friendly person, who wanted to make it clear he wanted no part of the war and posturing that is happening now.
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Glad you are not ignoring me anymore.

I do not know this person he may well be a very nice person by my standards.
At the same time, I do not know his position on women and religious rights or freedom of speech and press.
 
gtc said:
This is a link to an article from a newspaper based in Cyprus.
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The paper (The Middle East Times) is owned by News World Communications, Inc. which in turn is owned by the Reverend Song Myung Moon's Unification Church (a.k.a. "Moonies"). I don't know if the church ownership affects editorial policy, which subjects are covered by the paper or the quality of the reporting. Hopefully it doesn't, but I don't understand why a church is in the news business anyway.*





*The Unification Church own other newspapers, including The Washington Times and the news service, United Press International (UPI).
 
gtc said:
Hang on a minute.

There is no evidence that this is part of conspiracy of planting negative stories in western media to justify war against Iran. This is a link to an article from a newspaper based in Cyprus.

Posters should also remember that no one on this thread has used this story to justify attacking Iran. Some of the comments are bordering on ad hom. attacks.
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Thank you.

I also find it odd that on a skeptics forum that discussion of a shocking news item would bring forth such lunatic conspiracy theories.
 
Whoa...easy folks. Read the article. The story is attributed to the Iranian newspaper Etemad. No direct link is provided, but the Etemad is in fact an Iranian newspaper, and several different sources cited the Etemad newspaper in their reporting. That doesn't make the story necessarily true, but it's not exactly smelling all that suspicious, either.
 
Very sad, but when you consider that tribal law allows brothers to just kill a woman who was raped, not too suprising.

The status of women's rights around the world is deplorable, take the Russian Federation, they just allow men to beat the crap out of thier wives, here in the US we give lip service to womens rights, and then ignore them.
 
Freakshow said:
You've never heard stories like this about Islamic societies before? This is not new.
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Yes but there is something to the idea, sort of like how the US allows Cubans to almost immigrate at will, while in other counries, you can be an actual victim of torture and not be allowed to immigrate to the US.
9I know this story is not a specific case of planting against Iran)

More chilling was the honor killing of kidnap victims in IRAQ, the nation who is benefiting from our invasion.
 
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