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Prostitution and Sex

CBL4

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Just in from Sweden, prostitution has nothing to do with sex!!

From the September 2nd Economist:
As Lise Bergh, state secretary for gender equality, explains: “We have come to see men's purchasing of women as a form of violence. It has nothing to do with sexuality.”
Sorry, the Economist is not available online except to Subscribers. The article is entitled "Swedish Message." Here are the first two paragraphs
IF POLICIES were commodities, Sweden would have a large surplus on its trade balance. This small nation of 9m people has already exported to Britain active labour market policies, a model for universal childcare, and a merged prison and probation service. A ban on smacking children, pioneered by the Swedes in 1979 and successfully sold to 11 other European countries, was, after a struggle, voted down by the House of Lords in July. None of these policies, though, is being marketed so aggressively as Sweden's policy of outlawing the purchase of sex.

That Sweden should have developed Europe's toughest prostitution policies is odd, because the country used to be known for its liberal attitude to abortion, co-habitation and sex education. The law was changed in 1999, after ministers became convinced that the sex trade was upsetting the balance of power between the sexes. As Lise Bergh, state secretary for gender equality, explains: “We have come to see men's purchasing of women as a form of violence. It has nothing to do with sexuality.”

CBL
 
I nominate you for an award for Most Clickable Eye-Catching Thread Title.

If the argument against prostitution is based on gender relations, then is homosexual prostitution okay? How about if a man pays for a dominatrix -- that would hardly seem like he's degrading her. Not when she's got the, uh, whip hand.
 
. . . The law was changed in 1999, after ministers became convinced that the sex trade was upsetting the balance of power between the sexes . . .
Wonder which gender they thought was gaining all the power.
 
The Swedes must have a lot of spare time on their hands if they are trying to re-define the "world's oldest profession".

It's when prostitution is illegal, do we see women (the sex workers), children recruited, getting abused, being pimped, and unfortunately being preyed upon by serial killers.

Notwithstanding the violence I mentioned in the previous paragraph, prostitution is a simple "pay for services" between typically two adults.

Charlie (did she give you VD? no I paid for it.) Monoxide
 
Charlie Monoxide said:
Notwithstanding the violence I mentioned in the previous paragraph, prostitution is a simple "pay for services" between typically two adults.

Three if you can meet the added expense.
 
Haven't you heard? All sex is violence. At least according to some feminists. (edited to add: Actually they really mean all sex between a man and a woman is violence...)

Loving to Survive: Sexual Terror Men's Violence,and Women's Lives by Dee L. R. Graham


Graham contends that women collectively suffer from the Stockholm syndrome - the psychological bonding of a kidnap victim with his/ her kidnapper, as a result of woman's constant fear of being economically, verbally, sexually, or physically assaulted. According to Graham, women's apparent subservience, gentleness, and self-sacrificing manner are an adaptive mechanism for dealing in a world full of violence against women.

"We propose that women's bonding to men, as well as women's femininity and heterosexuality, are paradoxical responses to men's violence against women. Like captors who need to kill or at least wound a few hostages in order to get what they want, men terrorize women in order to get what they want" women's continued sexual, emotional, domestic, and reproductive services. Like hostages who work to placate their captors lest those captors kill them, women work to please men, and from this response springs women's femininity."

For example, Societal Stockholm Syndrome theory explains why many women oppose the Equal Rights Amendment, why most women reject the very theory - feminism - which espouses women's point of view and seeks to increase women's rights, why women work so hard to connect to men when it would be so much easier to get our needs for connection met by other women, why many women have a 'love addiction," and why women love men in the face of men's violence against us.
 
If that's a form of violence against women, then what in God's name is pointing a gun at a supposedly free woman and telling her she can't do that?!?!?

It is, of course, Newspeak.

See, it's OK to control people if you are the one behind the gun. You're good, naturally.
 
I've come to see stupid ideas not merely as violence (believe me, it is), but as mass murder.
 
... a ban on smacking children, pioneered by the Swedes in 1979 and successfully sold to 11 other European countries, was, after a struggle, voted down by the House of Lords in July.

Alhough I personally support such laws..... surely they have an exemption for Muslim communities to practice their culture? Or would that just apply to women and not kids?
 
Beerina said:
... what in God's name is pointing a gun at a supposedly free woman and telling her she can't do that?!?!?

She's interfering with my right not to look at a total whore when I walk down the street! It's bad enough I have to see them at work and sit with these sluts in my class. They're always sweet-talking me, looking for some. I'm like, go to hell, you're not gonna tramp me that way.

The school even hired these giant dykes to teach, and I have to take their stupid exams that they give.

See, it's OK to control people if you are the one behind the gun. You're good, naturally.

Absolutely, that's how it's always been. That's why government-lovers HATE the 2nd Amendment.
 
CBL4 said:
Just in from Sweden, prostitution has nothing to do with sex!!

It's interesting to note that we in the US went through this insanity about 25 years ago and largely seem to have outgrown it. It's even become far less popular on college campuses.
 
CBL4 said:
Just in from Sweden, prostitution has nothing to do with sex!!
Oh?? So...what IS it about? Is it to do with the price of tea in China? Buying the baby a bonnet? Seeing a man about a dog?

Or is "prostitution" some form of Swedish word that is spelled the same as an English word but actually means "putting rotten rollmops in my hat and dancing a jig"?

I stand to be educated on this...
 
Haven't you heard? All sex is violence.
If sex is violence, I must be a bully.

YES! I have found a new way to brag about my sexual exploits! Bow before me, jealous underlings!

Anyway, it's like Carlin said: Why is it illegal to pay for something that you can get for free?
 
Re: Re: Prostitution and Sex

American said:
... a ban on smacking children, pioneered by the Swedes in 1979 and successfully sold to 11 other European countries, was, after a struggle, voted down by the House of Lords in July.
Alhough I personally support such laws..... surely they have an exemption for Muslim communities to practice their culture? Or would that just apply to women and not kids?


Meanwhile, Sweeds and parents in those 11 other countries are still free to mutilate their sons' sex organs against the baby's wishes.

Hooray! After living with European influence for hundreds of years, our unique US cultural-o-political attitude is back-flowing into Europe!

We'll have women's b00bs on beaches illegal over there in no time!
 
The funny thing is that I could legally hire a women to box/wrestle with. But If I hire her for sex, thats illegal cause its a violent act??
 
Dorian Gray said:
If sex is violence, I must be a bully.

YES! I have found a new way to brag about my sexual exploits! Bow before me, jealous underlings!

Anyway, it's like Carlin said: Why is it illegal to pay for something that you can get for free?

I don't know. Marriage seems to be full of hidden cost.
 

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