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PROOF that evolution is FALSE!!!!!

It's probably a waste of time refuting that bible thumper.
On the other hand, if anyone would like to support any of his points.......
 
Umm...

Riiiiiiigggggghhhhttttt........ What a load of crapola. I mean, the guy DID bring up a few good points, but none of them disproved evolution. Just a few theories. He started getting wonky and proofless near the end, though.,
 
This should probably be posted in the Religion section.

Please quit trying to turn a skeptic board into an atheist one.
 
Whodini said:
This should probably be posted in the Religion section.
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Evolution v Creationism is, I think, more properly a Science topic than a Religion And Philosophy topic.
At the very least it could be in either. Toss a coin. Heads Science wins. Tails Religion loses.
Sounds about right. :)
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Sounds about right. :D
(Except perhaps it should be "nontheist" rather than "athesit" depending on your definitions)

regards,
BillyJoe
 
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(Except perhaps it should be "nontheist" rather than "athesit" depending on your definitions)

Er... that's what 'atheist' means, isn't it?
 
ChrisH said:

(Except perhaps it should be "nontheist" rather than "athesit" depending on your definitions)

Er... that's what 'atheist' means, isn't it?
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Quick! Get over to the Religion and Philosophy forum! Franko is waiting!
 
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Quick! Get over to the Religion and Philosophy forum! Franko is waiting!
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Franko is the other reason I posted this topic here instead of R&P.
 
Whodini,

This should probably be posted in the Religion section.
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Given that this thread is about evolution, and pseudo-scientific claims against it, I would say it belongs here as much as anywhere else.

Please quit trying to turn a skeptic board into an atheist one.
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Oh please. :rolleyes: Even most Christians think that Biblical Creationism is pure nonsense, and accept evolution as a valid scientific theory. Please quit trying to turn every discussion into a theism vs atheism one.

Dr. Stupid
 
BillyJoe said:
Except perhaps it should be "nontheist" rather than "atheist" depending on your definitions.
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ChrisH said:
Er... that's what 'atheist' means, isn't it?
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As I said, it depends on your definitions

Theist: Someone who believes that God exists.
Atheist: Someone who believes that God does not exist.
Nontheist: Someone who does not believe that God exists.

By these definitions, neither theism nor atheism are sceptical positions because there is no evidence that "God exists" and no evidence that "God does not exist"

A nontheist takes the sceptical position that he will believe in something only if there is evidence for this belief (and his belief will be in proportion to the evidence). Therefore he "does not believe that God exists" because there is no evidence for this position. This is very different from believing that "God does not exist"


However, some do not recognize the term "nontheist" and split "atheist" into "strong atheist" (equivalent to the definition for "atheist" above) and "weak atheist" (equivalent to the definition for "nontheist" above)

As I say, it depends on your definitions but I personally much prefer "nontheist" to "weak atheist"
 
Whodini said:
This should probably be posted in the Religion section.

Please quit trying to turn a skeptic board into an atheist one.
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Evolutionary theory properly belongs in the biological sciences. Therefore, discussion of evolution properly belongs in the Science forum. Please quit trying to equate science with atheism. Please quit trying to turn rational discourse into balderdash.

Cheers,
 
This should probably be posted in the Religion section.

Please quit trying to turn a skeptic board into an atheist one.
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Evolution is a scientific theory, not a theist vs. atheist issue. Creationists try to portray evolution as a religious (or anti-religious) belief exactly because they cannot effectively argue against the science behind it. Religiously motivated attacks on legitimate science are of obvious interest to those concerned with science and this issue clearly belongs on the science forum.
 
Indeed, all that needs be said here can be found at the talk origin archives. www.talkorigins.org. Creationism is primarily motivated by religion and nuttiness, but there are those who battle creationists and are theists of some sort or another.

Oh yeah, and none of the "points" brought up there have any merit, as you shall see at talkorigins. Creationism on the whole is a rather odd blotch on the US (primarily US), and, to quote Stephen Jay Gould, "[A]s patriotic Americans, we should cringe in embarrassment that, at the dawn of a new, technological millennium,... our heartland has opted supress one of greatest triumphs of human discovery." Perhaps creationism will not go away in the near future, and that would surely be because of a lack of proper scientific instruction rather than the resilience of pseudoscience.

Whichever turns out ot be the case, there should be a concerted effort to drive not only creationism, but all other parasitic nonsense from the world. Leaving such poisonous lies out as truth for the world surely does great diservice to our attempts to better the world, and for that reason must be dealt in an honest and straightforeward way, else is to our loss.

(end pitiful attempt at Gould-esque writing)
 
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I guess Stimpy is talking to me again.
 
Whodini said:
This should probably be posted in the Religion section.

Please quit trying to turn a skeptic board into an atheist one.
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One more jeer.

Evolution is a scientific theory. It is falsifiable, etc.

Creation "science" is a silly form of religion that can not be falsified, has no evidence for it, and that is shoved down our throats by the equivelent of witch-hunters.
 
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Creation "science" is a silly form of religion that ....
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So why post about it in the Science section.

Unless the original poster was promoting atheism.
 
Anti-creationist != anti-religion

What part of that do you not understand?
 
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Anti-creationist != anti-religion

What part of that do you not understand?
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It is

anti-one-aspect-of-religion.
 
Belief in religion does not require belief in creationism. If I were Christian, I'd be pissed at creationists for making Christianity look stupid. Your argument is like saying anti-Islamic-fundamentalist = anti-Islam (yea, yea, straw-man argument, but it shows that your part = whole idea is wrong).
 
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