PROOF of Telepathy (Telephone Telepathy)!

Ripley Twenty-Nine

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Good afternoon fellow skeptics.

Just wanted to let you know that the search for the paranormal is now over. We have official proof of telepathy!

This article proves it.

Man! Who would have thought that Interesting Ian was right all this time, eh?

....Wait, what's that?

However, his sample was small on both trials -- just 63 people for the controlled telephone experiment and 50 for the email -- and only four subjects were actually filmed in the phone study and five in the email, prompting some skepticism.
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Oh... That's not too good, is it? But wait, listen to this!
"The hit rate was 45 percent, well above the 25 percent you would have expected," he told the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science. "The odds against this being a chance effect are 1,000 billion to one."
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Hey, that's amazing.. 1,000 BILLION! That number is huge! Time to rip up my JREF Membership card; this skepticism is for the birds.

...Sorry, what was that?
Rupert Sheldrake, whose research is funded by the respected Trinity College, Cambridge, said on Tuesday he had conducted experiments that proved that such precognition existed for telephone calls and even e-mails.
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Oh... Uhhhh... Wow. This is embarassing.

..Let's just forget we had this conversation, shall we?
 
"The hit rate was 45 percent, well above the 25 percent you would have expected," he told the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science. "The odds against this being a chance effect are 1,000 billion to one."
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How did what number huh? Help me, Popper! Aaaarg!
 
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From the mouths of babes...

roger said:
Here's a good article listing some of the criticisms of the study.
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I had the BorgMonkey up on my lap while reading the article, and decided to read it out loud to her (Mother Goose can get old after a bit). When I got to this part: "...the panel’s lack of balance was like inviting creationists to address the prestigious meeting without an opposing view from evolutionary biologists," she literally sat straight up and stared at me. Keep in mind, she's only 16 months old, and knows three words (Mommy, daddy, and juice). Surely she's a prodigy in skepticism...

Marc
 
Small sample, people with small or non-existent social networks. Gee, whodathunkit?

What kills me is that someone paid for this BS! Dammit, where's Penn and Teller when you need them!?!?!?!
 
Predictions:

1) Study replication will fail.

2) There will be no news article that says "Whoops, telepathy not true after all."
 
KingMerv00 said:
Predictions:

1) Study replication will fail.

2) There will be no news article that says "Whoops, telepathy not true after all."
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Both predictions will be wrong. Because this one will not:


There will be no attempt of replication.
 
roger said:
Here's a good article listing some of the criticisms of the study.
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From the article: "When asked whether he thought he was descended from apes on his mother’s or father’s side, Huxley responded:"I would rather be descended from an ape than a bishop.""

Hah! Oh, snap.
 
Good studies don't need no replication (Sheldrake has his wanted result, he won't be stupid to risk it).
Still not allowed to use smilies.
 
Ah, I read this on Yahoo news yesterday and was compelled to investigate (a little) and found this article on Sheldrake's website about the e-mail study that was quoted:

[Argh - can't post the hyperlink as I'm a newbie]

Can't speak for the telephone version, but in this one I would have to nominate four friends who might email me at an agreed time (say 10.10). The experimenter randomly picks one and lets them know seven or eight minutes before the test time (say 10.02). I have to email the experimenter with my guess at 10.09. The chosen friend then sends their email at 10.10. The study takes place at people's own homes or places at work. I am pretty confident, given those controls, that me and my mates could accomplish a better than 25% record.

Even with the filmed version (participants filmed themselves) it would be ridiculously easy to cheat, and Sheldrake flags up a possible way (vibrating mobile phones) in the paper. He then says:

"In our opinion, it is very unlikely that all the successful participants independently thought of this method of cheating and were motivated to put it into practice."

And argues that if they had used this method, they should have got 100%. Surely ... trusting your participants isn't good enough?
 
Mojo said:
Hey, I can do that as well! If one of my friends phones me I quite often know who it is very shortly after lifting the receiver...
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Me too! It is like there is a little voice in my head. I usually only hear in through my right ear though.
 
Of course, even if this was actually true it would be completely useless, since my phone tells me who is calling anyway.
 
What the heck would the mechanism be if such a thing were true? Are friends tuned into each other's brainwaves? Do the phone lines somehow amplify one's thoughts and carry them to the person being called? Is there any measurable energy emitted by one person and received by another? And, if so, what organ in the body sends and/or senses thoughts?
 
Loss Leader said:
What the heck would the mechanism be if such a thing were true?
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Mechanism? Who needs a mechanism?

Undeterred, Sheldrake -- who believes in the interconnectedness of all minds within a social grouping...
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It's all about vibrations and spirit energy. It's not something that you can measure with your "science" tools. What do you think this is, a phone call?
 
Yeah this is true, girls always tell me that it's weird that I called because they were just thinking about me right before I did. Wait nevermnind, they're always thinking about me.
 
The year was 1978. I was a junior in high school. I was cleaning up my bedroom and ran across my freshman yearbook. I was browsing through it when I saw the picture of a girl I "went with" (the term used then) for a couple of months. I had not seen nor talked to her since the end of school that year (1976). I was still looking at her picture when the phone rang and, you guessed it, it was her. She said she was just thinking about me and called to see how I had been. This blew my mind.

I know the call was just a coincidence, but at the time it really freaked me out. I still kinda get that "woo" feeling when I think about it. The timing of it is what gets me. If she would have called later that day or even week, I probably would have been a little startled, but she called at the exact time I was looking at her picture. What a trip.

I know it was just a fluke but I can see why some people would put more meaning into it. It was a strange experience.
 
I had read this on Yahoo news and sent them another letter complaining about printing such junk. (they do reply) Rupert Sheldrake is one of those "Educated Idiots" my dad always warned me about. This educated man is so stupid and disilusioned he should be pickled in cow urine and displayed at the Smithonian as an example of human stupidity!
He does a "scientific" experiment involving 63 people, all of whom gave the testers the names of at least 4 other people ie: friends and relatives, who call often. So the person being tested not only knows the names of the people calling, he knows they will be calling as soon as the "test" starts! He does the same with 50 people and email.
Face it, if you knew 4 people were going to call you sometime today, you would, at min. guess 25%, heck even 50% would be easily achieved!
For the email test it can be even easier. If you have as I do, different email addresses that are assigned to different groups such as family, co-workers, Forum members etc., your hit rate would be pretty darn good. Rupert is enthuiastic about his "results' and plans another test, only next time it will be, get this, mobile phones! Wow! I guess the result will be down right conclusive this time! A Nobel Prize is sure to come his way once all the tests are completed.
BYW: I went to the Trinity college site and could not access any info on this experiment. Has anyone else found an official site listing? Cambridge, like Harvard, is home to some super scientist and some super quacks! It's ok to be uninteligent; you were born that way, being uneducated can be remedied, but being educated, inteligent and not using your brain to think is stupid!~
 
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