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Proof of Life After Death!!

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For all those seeking the "Truth " about life after death as well as the possibility of communicating with those who have crossed over please read about my experience with psychic medium John Edward. You must ALSO read all the comments to get more details and the full picture. Just google "Proof of life after death Yorktown" or here is the direct link:
yorktown-somers.patch.com/blog.../proof-of-life-after-death
 
I suspect a drive-by spamming, but just in case:

No, thanks. I will read your links after you sufficiently summarize and discuss it here and read the resources we will provide you to describe confirmation bias, the tricks of mediums like John Edward, and other effects that mislead the unsuspecting into erroneous belief. I also ask that you explain how you, personally, distinguish between fake psychics (I assume you acknowledge that some exist) and the allegedly real psychics like John Edward.

Otherwise, not interested, thanks.
 
Considering the rapidity of your response I must guess you did not actually read the blog or any of the comments. The truth is... a completely closed-mind is a very dangerous mindset.
 
Wow, another completely closed-mind! "Not interested" in even reading my link? How does anyone expect to learn ANYTHING without being open to a new opinion and experience?
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
Considering the rapidity of your response I must guess you did not actually read the blog or any of the comments. The truth is... a completely closed-mind is a very dangerous mindset.
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Have you ever heard of cold/hot reading? If I provide you links will you be open-minded enough to read them?
 
I will say it again in a different way: If you wish to discuss your experience here, then discuss it here. If, after hearing your discussion I feel your argument may have merit, I will go to your link, but not before.

Or perhaps I could just post links to the Skeptic's Dictionary. Will your open mind read all of those before we discuss anything?
 
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Or to put it still another way:

This is a discussion forum, not a go-to-this-link-before-I-even-talk-about-the-specifics forum. And I will happily engage you in the proper definition of open vs. closed minded and whether you or I fit that definition more closely.
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
How does anyone expect to learn ANYTHING without being open to a new opinion and experience?
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Whatever made you imagine your opinion or experience was new?

I think you might benefit from doing a bit more reading around here before you criticize others for failing to read whatever material it was you linked to.
 
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Wow, another completely closed-mind! "Not interested" in even reading my link? How does anyone expect to learn ANYTHING without being open to a new opinion and experience?
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Cold reading/ mentalism isn't exactly a novel technique.
 
Actually my MLS degree and experience working as a librarian the past 23 years is a good indicator that perhaps I already have done a lot of research about fake mediums and the ways they try to trick people. But then again if you had read my link and all the comments you would already know that. But listen I don't have time to beg anyone to read my link I just mistakenly thought the people on this site were seeking knowledge. Obviously I was wrong.
 
Actually, we're seeking discussion. Got anything you'd like to discuss?
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
Considering the rapidity of your response I must guess you did not actually read the blog or any of the comments. The truth is... a completely closed-mind is a very dangerous mindset.
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We've read it all before. A short summary of your case will help. I have no desire to trawl through yet another woo blog.
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
Actually my MLS degree and experience working as a librarian the past 23 years is a good indicator that perhaps I already have done a lot of research about fake mediums and the ways they try to trick people. But then again if you had read my link and all the comments you would already know that. But listen I don't have time to beg anyone to read my link I just mistakenly thought the people on this site were seeking knowledge. Obviously I was wrong.
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So,what is it about your new and novel experience that prevents you form explaining it here?
What is it that makes you convinced that this time, out of all of history, is the one time that parlor tricks are evidence of something unique, and supernatural?
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
Actually my MLS degree and experience working as a librarian the past 23 years is a good indicator that perhaps I already have done a lot of research about fake mediums and the ways they try to trick people. But then again if you had read my link and all the comments you would already know that. But listen I don't have time to beg anyone to read my link I just mistakenly thought the people on this site were seeking knowledge. Obviously I was wrong.
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No, you are not wrong, but you are mistaken in assuming that we haven't run across such things many, many times before or that there aren't people, like me, who used to believe as you do, or that we haven't studied the techniques of frauds like John Edward to the nth degree. And I call him a fraud intentionally. I've studied him enough, and other mediums enough, and other psychics enough, and other claims enough to know that he has done exactly nothing to prove his claims. I also know it, as do many others here, from our own performing experiences. There are magicians and mentalists on this forum; I am one (albeit an amateur), and convincing people I am psychic is easy.

You imply we are arrogant, but let me ask you this question: I assume you believe there are fake psychics out there; I further assume that you know those fake psychics have a lot of believers who are as adamant as you that the fake psychics are in fact legitimate. Why are they wrong and you are right? Is it merely that you are smart enough to tell the difference while they are not?
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
Just google "Proof of life after death Yorktown"
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OK...
Famed Psychic Medium Author John Edward Talks New Book, Supernatural and Family
Robin Stettnisch
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03:38 PM on 10/01/2012
Totally the real deal! Google......Proof of Life After Death Yorktown....to read about my experience with John Edward.
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Oh no, stuck in a recursive loop!

or here is the direct link:
yorktown-somers.patch.com/blog.../proof-of-life-after-death
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Sorry, we could not find the page you requested. Please check the URL and try again. Thanks!
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
Actually my MLS degree and experience working as a librarian the past 23 years is a good indicator that perhaps I already have done a lot of research about fake mediums and the ways they try to trick people. But then again if you had read my link and all the comments you would already know that. But listen I don't have time to beg anyone to read my link I just mistakenly thought the people on this site were seeking knowledge. Obviously I was wrong.
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In the course of acquiring your education and vast experience did you ever run into the concept that though something may seem new and exciting to you, others before you have had the same experiences, but have done the appropriate research (with open minds) and through elimination of confirmation/affirmation biases, cognitive errors, etc., come to a quite different conclusion than yours?

These conclusions are provisional of course pending further data. Do you have any? How about a summary because your link is slow to load?
 
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Since DallasDad posted it, I caved and clicked on the link. I got to the actual page, unlike Roger (sorry about that; not sure why it doesn't work for you).

DallasDad is correct. There is nothing at all convincing. I read the entire blog piece, which is short, and 30 or 40 of the comments; there are far too many comments to read them all without better reason to. Interestingly enough, many of the comments are by a skeptic (maybe two) pointing out how the blog isn't convincing. Robin's comments try to stick to the point, but a few other believer comments bring up the canards of not-using-our-whole-brain, and scientists-don't-know-everything.

Robin's two main points seem to be that JE knew that she had just bought a refrigerator and that JE mentioned a connection between her brother and Valerie Harper (the brother had tickets to that night's Broadway show starring Valerie Harper).

No transcript. No text of what JE actually said. A dismissal in the comments section of the skeptics who point out that finding things out about the sitter is easy and fast. And an admission in the comments section by Robin that she and her brother made the Valerie Harper connection after the show themselves; the significance apparently being missed.

Not convincing at all, I'm afraid.
 
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