Project 2025

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Trump "I know nothing about project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."


What an bunch of BS! No idea who is behind it? They are all former Trump administration people. Knows nothing about it? but some of the things are ridiculous?



Paul Dans - Director, Project 2025
Prior to joining Heritage, Dans served in the Trump Administration as Chief of Staff at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management
In January 2021, President Trump appointed Dans to serve as Chairman of the National Capital Planning Commission.


Spencer Chretien - Associate Director, Project 2025
From 2020-2021, he served as Special Assistant to President Donald J. Trump and Associate Director of Presidential Personnel.


Troup Hemenway - Associate Director, Project 2025
A former associate director of the Presidential Personnel Office (PPO) under President Donald Trump


Project 2025 partners employ over 200 former officials from the Trump administration.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025



Project 2025 envisions widespread changes across the government, particularly economic and social policies and the role of the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes taking partisan control of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Department of Commerce, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC), dismantling the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and sharply reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuel production.[7][12] The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts,[13] though its writers disagree on the wisdom of protectionism.[14] Project 2025 recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be either transferred to other agencies, or terminated.[15][16] Funding for climate research would be cut while the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be reformed along conservative principles.[17][18] The Project seeks to cut funding for Medicare and Medicaid,[19][20] and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care.[21][22] The Project states that life begins at conception,[19] and seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception under the Affordable Care Act[19] and enforce the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and recieve contraceptives and abortion pills nationwide.[22][23] The Project seeks to infuse the government with elements of Christianity.[6] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[24] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[24][25] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs,[3][25] as well as affirmative action[26] by instead having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism."[27] The Project recommends the arrest, detention, and deportation of undocumented immigrants living in the United States by using the military to capture and place them in internment camps.[28][29] The Insurrection Act of 1807 would be used to allow the military to engage in domestic policing and assist capturing undocumented immigrants.[30][31] It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of those sentences.[32]
 
It kind of looks like Project 2025 is to some Democrats as Agenda 21 is to QAnon.
 
I look at Project 2025 as America's Mein Kampf. Yes, America's. Because one of the two major political parties is all-in. And probably a larger percentage of Americans are on board than were the Germans who voted for the Nazis in 1932.

If not this election, then soon enough. The pendulum inevitably swings, and the traitorous cabal busily beavering on this will have their chance.

Can the Dems keep the Presidency ad infinitum? That notwithstanding, the Red States now have a pretty compliant SCROTUS to back their lurch backward.

And now look at the SCROTUS ruling on POTUS immunity.

America is fast becoming a rogue among the democracies, aching for Autocracy. To me it seems almost a foregone conclusion. The few good people who perceive the danger and wring hands, vainly awaiting the arrival of a saviour. And the rest are either asleep or will gladly usher in a new Dark Age.
 
trump distances himself from Agenda 2025 the way he distances himself from the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys: stand back and stand by.

The job of the Agenda 2025 people is to help him win and rule, and if the former requires him to denounce them, than that's their job, too.

But Trump can't do **** on his own, as we have seen, so he needs an army of cronies to implement his ideas, or at least an army of cronies willing, if not competent to do so.
 
At what point are actual Americans allowed to fight back?
All of the ******* “well, it’s up to the courts” is ******** at this point.

The right has said out loud for more than a decade that their goal is to end democracy.
When are we allowed to actually fight back?

My grandfather was paid good money to kill people who were absolutely indistinguishable from today’s republicans.

When can we fire back?
Seriously; I have been hearing the “we need to be better than them”
******** for thirty years.
No Republican wants freedom or compromise. They are treasonous scum.
 
The "Founding Fathers" didn't want a Democracy of anyone but rich landowners.

It could be argued that we are the traitors because we want such commie things like equal rights.
 
At what point are actual Americans allowed to fight back?
At what point were actual Germans allowed to fight back against the Nazis? I think the Nazis would have taken exception to it at any point in the process.

Perhaps the more relevant question is "at what point should actual Americans no longer wait for permission to use violence?"
 
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Trump "I know nothing about project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."


What an bunch of BS! No idea who is behind it? They are all former Trump administration people. Knows nothing about it? but some of the things are ridiculous?
To be fair, Trump is a pretty stupid individual, and his ego probably makes it hard to comprehend anything that is "not trump". So its not inconceivable that he doesn't know anything about it.

But, that doesn't really make it better. Even if he "knows nothing about it", he SHOULD know about it. Being ignorant of such a document makes him look incompetent.

So, the choice is clear... trump is either Incompetent or evil.
 
A few people on one side have some extreme ideas and the other side think that they're held by them all.
Here are the reasons we should be worried about "project 2025":

- As pointed out before, it was created in part by people who had positions in the first Trump administration, and there is a chance that Trump will either pick the same people for his administration again, or people like them

- We have seen this happen before over abortion rights. Thousands/millions of people probably voted republican in 2016 thinking "Roe v. Wade is settled", only to find that the worst-case scenario CAN come true.

- Trump has released few of any concrete proposals of his own to say "this is what I plan to do". And Trump is famous for having the attention span of a goldfish, often following the guidance of the last person who talked to him. If you're not going to release any policy statements, you can't blame people for assuming the worst.

- At least some of the ideas in Project 2025 reflect policies tried to implement in the past, or has talked about for a potential future term. (Things like changes to the citizenship questionnaire, further tax cuts, firing employees, etc.) Yeah, Trump might not have specifically talked about contraception, or banning pr0n, or some of the other weirder ideas, but a lot of Project 2025 DOES line up with his ideas, so its not too far fetched he may pick up some of the other, more radical, ideas as well
 

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