• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Princess Diana

Geisha

New Blood
G
Joined
Sep 23, 2007
Messages
22
Ok, if you've seen my other thread I'm pretty sure you can figure out what I'm going to ask. Once again my mom thinks the royal family had her killed. I don't get out much so I only have a small group of people to talk to about this, so I was hoping I could get other people's views on this.
 
A drunk driver at high speeds in a narrow tunnel.


has anyone ever watched the movie Ronin and thought about how easy it would be to crack up in that tunnel?
 
Geisha, a good line of questioning you can have with your mom on this and the Anna N. Smith issue is: How do you know it was a murder? Have you looked at all the evidence for either theory fairly? Can you support you suspicions with evidence? Try to teacher her critical thinking skills.

Continue to ask why, when, how, who questions, rather than throwing a bunch of evidence around. Digging into the root of the belief is the key, not trying to smack them in the head with tons and tons of evidence.

I think we do that too much here. We load the gun with full metal jacket evidence and forget that the more important battle for the hearts and minds. Uncover the true reason why your mom believes the things she does and that will be your best "debunking" effort.

Get inside her head like a brain eating amoeba and change opinions from the inside out by showing here that her thought processes are flawed.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
A drunk driver at high speeds in a narrow tunnel.


has anyone ever watched the movie Ronin and thought about how easy it would be to crack up in that tunnel?
Click to expand...

You left out the not wearing a seat belt part. Inertia is no more kind to princesses than it is to us normal folk.

Norm
 
Alferd_Packer said:
A drunk driver at high speeds in a narrow tunnel.


has anyone ever watched the movie Ronin and thought about how easy it would be to crack up in that tunnel?
Click to expand...

If you get a chance, watch it with the commentary turned on. The director's description of how they did that scene is fascinating.
 
fromdownunder said:
You left out the not wearing a seat belt part. Inertia is no more kind to princesses than it is to us normal folk.

Norm
Click to expand...

Diana's death is one of the best arguments in favour of wearing seabelts. Two people not wearing them both dead. One person wearing his, survived.
 
AZCat said:
If you get a chance, watch it with the commentary turned on. The director's description of how they did that scene is fascinating.
Click to expand...


Hmm, I'm intrigued by that now too.

I'll always remember the director's commentary during the famous car-vs.-elevated-train chase sequence in The French Connection, in which the various trick moves were done one at a time over a period of five weeks, often through legitimate Brooklyn traffic, and a real, unplanned car accident was caused by one of the stunts and was included in the film (luckily, the people involved came out of it all right, and the filmmakers paid for the car damage). There's more trivia about it on IMDB.
 
I don't think there is anything suspicious about her death however I also believe that the royal family (and their entourage) do not respect the law so would not be surprised if they were found out to have broken the law in some regards - including things like paying people to burgle, blackmail and bribery and the like.

(A personal contender I have for a conspiracy theory is that the royals or the establishment on their behalf were behind the death of the Duke of Kent in WWII.)
 
Expresssatire.jpg
 
Why would they have her killed...to avoid embarassment? Well, that worked. Because she might marry or have a child with a Muslim? Would have made no difference to the succession...any child of thier's would have no "royal" status as it would have no royal blood. Because they woulnd't want a future king to have a muslim half brother? Meaningless, as it would have no impact on the succession.

The real artument against a conspiracy to murder Diana -- outside of the fact that it would involve too many people to keep it quiet -- is that the Windsor's aren't smart enough to figure out how to do it.
 
Darat said:
I don't think there is anything suspicious about her death however I also believe that the royal family (and their entourage) do not respect the law so would not be surprised if they were found out to have broken the law in some regards - including things like paying people to burgle, blackmail and bribery and the like.

(A personal contender I have for a conspiracy theory is that the royals or the establishment on their behalf were behind the death of the Duke of Kent in WWII.)
Click to expand...

Wha?!! Do tell.

As for Lady Di, this article sums it all nicely for me.
 
headscratcher4 said:
The real artument against a conspiracy to murder Diana -- outside of the fact that it would involve too many people to keep it quiet -- is that the Windsor's aren't smart enough to figure out how to do it.
Click to expand...

Lets see, you work for MI6 and have access to the entire machinery of state to off some ex-royal. Do you:

A: Arrange for the private jet she is in to "vanish" mysteriously while over water with no trace ever found; or

B: Wait until she is abroad and hope she will get into a car with a drunk driver and not bother to put her seatbelt on so that your "white car" can drive near her car, perhaps causing it to crash and resulting in an accident that may or may not prove fatal, with half of Europe's photo media in hot pursuit?
 
Jaggy Bunnet said:
Lets see, you work for MI6 and have access to the entire machinery of state to off some ex-royal. Do you:

A: Arrange for the private jet she is in to "vanish" mysteriously while over water with no trace ever found; or

B: Wait until she is abroad and hope she will get into a car with a drunk driver and not bother to put her seatbelt on so that your "white car" can drive near her car, perhaps causing it to crash and resulting in an accident that may or may not prove fatal, with half of Europe's photo media in hot pursuit?
Click to expand...

Indeed...the last British monarch who could have pulled this off was...Henry Tudor (VII) who set Richard III up for the murder of the princes in the Tower. Did a good enough job that they didn't find the bodies for over a hundred years and who employed world class propogandists to legitimize a very shakey claim on government. ;)

Liz and Phil are boobs compared to that.
 
Big Les said:
Wha?!! Do tell.

...snip...
Click to expand...

Prince George, the then Duke of Kent, was the one that humped anything even vaguely warm. He was was constantly creating scandal for the royals; he was known to have conducted a relationship with Noel Coward for about 19 years, and love letters the Prince had sent to Coward were stolen from Coward's house in 1942 and so on.

If you want to see how times have changed read this obituary article about him: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,773543,00.html?iid=chix-sphere

If you want to read about crazy-evil-Nazi Royals an the schemes they have been involved in read this one: http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/royal_nazis.html (Warning reading may damage your sanity.)

And a probably better balanced article: http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/spectrum.cfm?id=932452002
 
You know that the middle article is full of errors...such as bad dates that could have easilly been corrected...stupid errors kinda undercut the juicey venomn of the piece.
 
I've never understood why conspiracy theorist's think evil shadowy governments would actually attempt such staggeringly complex and easily-foiled plots.

It's not even like a plot out of James Bond. It's something from Austin Powers.

"Activate the ridiculously slow moving dipping mechanism!"

-Gumboot
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom