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Prime Ministerial Debates- Thread

I'm pretty sure it's not the first time an interest group has buried an opinion poll it commissioned where the results weren't to its liking. And it won't be the last.

Rolfe.
 
I noticed Brown talking a lot about how he has the experience, and has had to make decisions.

I was surprised that nobody pointed out that he couldn't even decide when to hold the election.

Cameron sounds like the Mail.

I was considering voting tactically for a hung parliament (which would probably be a vote for Labour given my constituency except for the whole civil liberties question.

Pity the lib dems haven't tried at all round here. Unlike Stockport which is a sea of orange.
 
In my constituency the Lib Dems are really throwing everything at winning - I've had way too many LibDem leaflets pushed through my door and a personal visit from a local council candidate. I've also had a few Labour leaflets, but nothing from the Tories. Presumably this sort of effort has some effect (otherwise they wouldn't bother) so I'm predicting a Lib Dem win in Islington South.
 
I don't know much about these parties and their platforms but what is so bad about them that I've seen many people on youtube (including Pat Condell in his latest video) say all the choices are bad and they are voting Independence party? From what I gather these major three are in favor of more EU involvement and the Independence party is not.
 
Not that it matters but I will now take a closer look at the UKIP. I really should look into these things before posting. I just found it interesting that several people I follow or check out on youtube or their websites have openly denigrated the three main parties and seem to urge people to vote for the Independence party. Now one person I know is a conspiracy theorist so maybe I shouldn't be surprised but I thought Pat Condell was a fairly legitimate/respected religious critic so it's interesting if he's supporting a "nutter" party.
 
Policenaut said:
Now one person I know is a conspiracy theorist so maybe I shouldn't be surprised but I thought Pat Condell was a fairly legitimate/respected religious critic so it's interesting if he's supporting a "nutter" party.
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Is that the older guy with the glasses?

Yeah, he's a headcase.
 
I don't think they are racist. They are more a collection of old crusty white guys who have read the Mail too much in their later years. The kind of people who are likely to have good taste in classical music and can recite a Shakespeare sonnet or two but surprise you when they blabber on about immigration and the medieval warming period over a glass of whisky.

Case in point, Sir Patrick Moore is a member.
 
I wasn't entirely serious. An old friend of mine is a member, though I have to say he's a racist, and a crusty old white guy, and I'm not sure he's entirely serious about it all either. He used to be a Conservative but fell out with them over some local planning matter.

I told him I appreciated the irony. He used to be a member of the party in government, while he mocked me for being a member of a small party campaigning on an independence ticket. Now I'm a member of the party in government, mocking him for being a member of a small party campaigning on an independence ticket. And I haven't changed parties.

They are fringe though, and even if not lunatic, I suspect most of them are racist in the way my friend is - not viciously so, but jingoistic and prejudiced.

Rolfe.
 
Well, that's me just made my donation to the SNP legal challenge fund re: the debate.
 
I was just coming to post that link, Uzzy! Cowan will still be on the ballot paper as it's too late to change them, but as Labour are a distant third in that seat, he isn't likely to be elected.
 
Uzzy said:
Just to further point out how horribly unfair that is, I noticed that no one is suggesting that recently suspended Labour candidate John Cowan is bringing 'BNP style extremism' to the campaign.
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Are....are you kidding?

It's not exactly the most open minded thing to say but "I'd rather my children not marry a Muslim" is far, far far removed from the filth that UKIP candidate spewed out.
 
Kidding? Not at all. Both were racist statements. Yet only UKIP gets tarred with the brush of 'BNP with a veneer of respectability'. Why is that, I wonder? Could it not just be that in both cases, someone with racist views was put up as a candidate, and once those views became known, the party apparatus removed them as a candidate?
 
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