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Presidential Greatness

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All the U.S. Presidents, Ranked by “Greatness”

https://cognitivefeedbackloop.com/all-the-u-s-presidents-ranked-by-greatness-b5f6a0b6dc3e



This question was posed to 170 current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association — a group of social science experts in presidential politics. These political scientists scored each president’s “greatness” on a scale of 0 to 100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average and 100 being great.

Some may say that the results are obviously skewed by the liberal biases of the academics who participated in the survey, and those people would probably be right. Of the respondents, 57.2% identified as Democrats, while only 12.7% as Republicans.

However, being the objectively-minded academics that they are, the authors of this report parsed this data and provided separate reports for how each president was rated by the survey respondents on the left and right side of the political fence.
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Reagan rated higher than I thought he would. Not surprised at all that Trump is rated so low.

There is supposed to be more details here, https://www.boisestate.edu/sps-politicalscience/ but I didn't see them.

Ranb
 
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Not surprised to see Buchanan so close to the bottom of the list - he was the only president who left office with fewer states than we had when he came in.
 
timhau said:
What's funny about this is that even conservative political scientists rate him way behind Obama.
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I found it funny that they barely rated him higher than Harrison. He's just slightly greater than a President who died a month after taking office.
 
I guess Obama used to be the black currant president.
 
Ranb said:
All the U.S. Presidents, Ranked by “Greatness”

https://cognitivefeedbackloop.com/all-the-u-s-presidents-ranked-by-greatness-b5f6a0b6dc3e

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Reagan rated higher than I thought he would. Not surprised at all that Trump is rated so low.

There is supposed to be more details here, https://www.boisestate.edu/sps-politicalscience/ but I didn't see them.

Ranb
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The article is two years old. I found this humorous: "It should be noted that because the survey was taken in December 2017 or January 2018, Donald Trump was only rated on his first year in office. This means that unlike the other presidents, he can still do something during the next couple years to improve his legacy."
 
Jungle Jim said:
The article is two years old. I found this humorous: "It should be noted that because the survey was taken in December 2017 or January 2018, Donald Trump was only rated on his first year in office. This means that unlike the other presidents, he can still do something during the next couple years to improve his legacy."
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He could have, but did not of course. :) Trump doubled down on the lunacy instead.
 
Ranb said:
All the U.S. Presidents, Ranked by “Greatness”

https://cognitivefeedbackloop.com/all-the-u-s-presidents-ranked-by-greatness-b5f6a0b6dc3e

[qimg]https://i.postimg.cc/mP26YNCg/1-z9-Jd-CUr6-RTKMvt6-VYQngg-Q.png[/qimg]



Reagan rated higher than I thought he would. Not surprised at all that Trump is rated so low.

There is supposed to be more details here, https://www.boisestate.edu/sps-politicalscience/ but I didn't see them.

Ranb
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It's probably a mistake to have the respondents rate presidents from their own lifetimes. It seems unlikely that Grant and Obama would get the same dispassionate evaluation from someone who wasn't born until long after Grant's passing, and who actually voted for Obama.
 
I'm shocked Harrison isn't on the top of the list. Spending only 31 days in office dying is a standard we should hold to most presidents.

You might not agree, but that's what peak performance looks like.


theprestige said:
It's probably a mistake to have the respondents rate presidents from their own lifetimes. It seems unlikely that Grant and Obama would get the same dispassionate evaluation from someone who wasn't born until long after Grant's passing, and who actually voted for Obama.
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Yeah, time really doing the heavy lifting here. My understanding is that Lincoln was considered a rather divisive figure in his time. Might have been even a few rowdy protests down in the South, IIRC.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
I'm shocked Harrison isn't on the top of the list. Spending only 31 days in office dying is a standard we should hold to most presidents.

You might not agree, but that's what peak performance looks like.




Yeah, time really doing the heavy lifting here. My understanding is that Lincoln was considered a rather divisive figure in his time. Might have been even a few rowdy protests down in the South, IIRC.
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The guy didn't even abolish slavery, and some of the stuff he did do was at least constitutionally questionable.

Not to mention throwing several hundred thousand people into the meat grinder.
 
Cheetah said:
Has the currant president seen this?
I would love to hear him tweeting about it.
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I can imagine this one from him:

Fake News! I have had the perfect presidency. People are saying, "Sir, your presidency is the best in history, Sir! It's tremendous, great, fantastic, the best!" I've got a 99% approval rating and women are all naming their babies after me! "Donald" is the most popular name in the world...even for girls! People don't know that but some do. We'll see!
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Yeah, time really doing the heavy lifting here. My understanding is that Lincoln was considered a rather divisive figure in his time. Might have been even a few rowdy protests down in the South, IIRC.
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The entire presidential race was different depending on where you lived. It was Lincoln v. Douglass in the north and Breckinridge v. Bell in the south. In ten southern states, Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot.

But, I agree that at least those who held office in the last 20 years should be excluded from such polls. For this poll, that would have been Clinton, W., Obama, and Rump.
 
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