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POPCORN! Gravy is on...! :D

Oliver

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=142975074341498508&hl=en

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Offcamera debate:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4752533356478165351&hl=en


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Heiligemariaundjosef!

Great Job, Gravy and Ron! :D

I had at least tried to knock their heads together.
Dylan looks like a zombie the most time and they both
look like they feel very uncomfortable. :rolleyes:
 
Wow, maybe Dylan really is humble! Starting at about 6:45:

We made that film essentially as a bunch of kids. That's the reality of the situation; we were a bunch of kids tackling a subject far beyond the scope of any one documentary. I would be the first to admit that our film definitely contained errors, it still does contain some dubious claims, and it does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts.... Loose Change is not really a very fair representation of the 9-11 Truth Movement. I'd recommend 9-11 Press for Truth, 9-11 Mysteries--really 9-11 Press for Truth is the one you can show to anybody.
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Watching now.

LMAO...they haven't been on five minutes and these two clowns are walking their crapload of lies and fallacies back so fast it makes your head spin.
 
oh my does Jason ever shut uP

gravy debunks him on flight 93
gravy debunks him on the wtc 93 attack?
didn't interview any of the people there?
JASON bermas disagrees about what they found at flight 93's crash site? WTF?

Dylan has to reign in Jason berma,s because eveyr statement out of his mouth is nothing more than is ignorance.
 
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I've only reached the 11:00 - 12:00 section - Mark speaking about Shanksville body remains - and notice they visibly pale at actually having to face the human aspect. Real people horrifically killed. Real people having to investigate and clear up and analyse.

This is excellent (so far). Quite well ordered, reasonably respectful, little irritating squabbling cross-talk.

I can't see how that could have gone much better than it did. Conceivably, Mark could have interrupted and savaged them at many points, but I'd guess that could have been self-defeating.

A civilised,reasonable, well-informed bloke talking rationally - with evidence - against a couple of wannabee celebrity geeks. Excellent.
 
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BERMAS!!!

You want to know how much is left of an aircraft that impacts the ground from altitude, at these types of speeds?

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Reconstruct that, you twit.

TWA 800 was reconstructed because no one knew why it crashed. There was an engineering and public safety concern. Plus, they didn't reconstruct the entire plane -- only those parts related to or near the center fuel tank and the surrounding fuselage were reconstructed, to understand better what happened. It is not a given that the NTSB reconstructs every single plane that crashes.

WE KNOW WHY 93 crashed. Some f[rule8]ing jihadists flew it into the GROUND YOU DUMBA[rule8]S.
 
dubfan said:
BERMAS!!!

You want to know how much is left of an aircraft that impacts the ground from altitude, at these types of speeds?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Eagle_4184_crashsite.jpg

Reconstruct that, you twit.

TWA 800 was reconstructed because no one knew why it crashed. There was an engineering and public safety concern. Plus, they didn't reconstruct the entire plane -- only those parts related to or near the center fuel tank and the surrounding fuselage were reconstructed, to understand better what happened. It is not a given that the NTSB reconstructs every single plane that crashes.

WE KNOW WHY 93 crashed. Some f[rule8]ing jihadists flew it into the GROUND YOU DUMBA[rule8]S.
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That´s the same thought i had during watching the show:
Why should they reconstruct a plane if they knew why it
crashed - this is a procedure i know from crashes that
are unclear concerning the cause/s.

ETA: And the loose change guys still didn´t release any
information about their own uploads about the show... :rolleyes:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1594&st=30
 
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Great job M. Roberts and Wieck! The LTW guys are getting crushed!

Can't wait for part 2!

(BTW, who is that silent little mouse with glasses in the middle?)
 
Oliver said:
Heiligemariaundjosef!

Great Job, Gravy and Ron! :D

I had at least tried to knock their heads together.
Dylan looks like a zombie the most time and they both
look like they feel very uncomfortable. :rolleyes:
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Sehr Richtig!

How Gravy and Ron can remain serious and calm while listening to that b***t is really amazing.
 
Killtown whinges:

I'm not knocking my friends Dylan and Jason, but I'd recommend not giving skeptics like Gravy the time of day. Gravy insults, mocks, curses, and ridicules us. He defines unprofessionalism. He is undeserving for us to give him any kind of limelight.

Just image how college debate judges would judge the skeptics like Gravy on their behavior. They'd be disqualified each and every time.

This is NOT a copout to avoid their arguments, it's simply about a standard of decency to be able to debate without having to take cheap shots from the opposing side.

From now one, I'd recommend truthers (or "twoofers" as Gravy and his ilk like to mock us) only engage with skeptics who display courteous and professional behavior towards us.
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1637

whaaaaaa whaaaaaaa my mates fink a plane crashed in pa....whaaaaaa mommy!
 
Jason has some strange not fact stuff coming from his head. Dylan, he knows he has lies, he is just there to make sure the lid gets back on Jason's head.

Jason looked like he was going to explode when his lies are exposed.

Thanks to Gravy for taking the time to expose these idiots.

I was an Air Force Safety Officer. When they talk about flight 93 it really gets me upset. When planes hit that hard the disappear into the ground. Everything is in the ground. The plane was going over 750 feet a second and it ends up in the ground. The Air Force has a lot of accidents where the plane is in the ground. So Jason is using faulty analogies when he said look at other accidents of aircraft in open fields. He forget those guys were trying to slow down in most accidents and not die.

93 was not an accident, the NTSB does not do the accident investigation it is a crime. The NTSB is invited for their expertise. Jason I would call you dumb but it comes up short as a proper description.
 
uk_dave said:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1637

whaaaaaa whaaaaaaa my mates fink a plane crashed in pa....whaaaaaa mommy!
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Im sorry, but did killclown see the same interview that we just did? Gravy (Mark) was more than professional and more than courteious throughout that interview. He didn't have as much vocal time as did Bermas (who continued to show his ignorance) but Gravy handled every misinformation from Bermas, that is backed by facts.

HOw is that unprofessional and withoout respect?

Killclown is delusional.
 
Funny that someone who distrusts professionals so much claims someone isn't professional...

:rolleyes:
 
Well done, indeed, Mark and Ron!

:bigclap

Bermas consistently comes across as a self-centered and whiny moron. Dylan looks corpse-like and did not add much at all. At least he admitted that his video is crap, though, and it was good to see him debunking his buddy, Bermas.
 
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