Poll for self-identified libertarians on vaccines

As a libertarian I..

  • support mandatory vaccinations

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • refuse mandatory vaccionations

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .

Diogenes

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I am curious, based on recent interactions with self-identified libertarians, what proportion of of self-identified libertarians support/refute the concept of mandatory vaccinations.

Hm...dropped an extra letter in the 2nd poll option and can't seem to edit.
 
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You do realize there is no way to control who responds to the poll, so any results are worthless.

Besides, there's no Planet X option.
 
True and it wouldn't be a statistically legitimate poll, in any event. Maybe I'll remake with that option.

On Facebook (only in the past 3 days) in these conversations I have a total of 8 self-identified libertarians where 6 oppose mandatory vaccinations but most of that 6 are sure to let me know that in the absence of a mandate people in "Libertarian World" would vaccinate at the same or at a higher rate because of "property rights" and "freedom of association" and the ability to sue someone that got you sick with a vaccine-preventable illness (or your too young to be vaccinated child) would get other people to make the free choice to be vaccinated.

I point to the evidence showing where we allow non-medical exemptions we have increased incidents of vaccine-preventable diseases. Adding this to the lack of any mandate outside certain occupations to get boosters seeing us with pertussis outbreaks it seems obvious to the most casual observer that allowing people the choice to vaccinate with no form of mandate would likely destroy any benefit of herd protection to vulnerable people (and, of course the lack of 100% efficacy making the vaccinated population unnecessarily vulnerable).

Yet those few still insist, apparently by underpants gnome logic, that people would choose to vaccinate in "Libertarian World" just because people that seek non-medical exemptions now would (magically) not make that choice there.
 
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You have also left out the option of: "Do not support mandatory vaccination, but will not refuse them for myself."

This approximates my position. I think it proper that vaccinations be a pre-requisite for some functions, such as public schools, military service or overseas travel, but do not believe they should be mandatory for everyone.

Edited to add: Not a Libertarian.
 
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True and it wouldn't be a statistically legitimate poll, in any event. Maybe I'll remake with that option.

On Facebook (only in the past 3 days) in these conversations I have a total of 8 self-identified libertarians where 6 oppose mandatory vaccinations but most of that 6 are sure to let me know that in the absence of a mandate people in "Libertarian World" would vaccinate at the same or at a higher rate because of "property rights" and "freedom of association" and the ability to sue someone that got you sick with a vaccine-preventable illness (or your too young to be vaccinated child) would get other people to make the free choice to be vaccinated.

I point to the evidence showing where we allow non-medical exemptions we have increased incidents of vaccine-preventable diseases. Adding this to the lack of any mandate outside certain occupations to get boosters seeing us with pertussis outbreaks it seems obvious to the most casual observer that allowing people the choice to vaccinate with no form of mandate would likely destroy any benefit of herd protection to vulnerable people (and, of course the lack of 100% efficacy making the vaccinated population unnecessarily vulnerable).

Yet those few still insist, apparently by underpants gnome logic, that people would choose to vaccinate in "Libertarian World" just because people that seek non-medical exemptions now would (magically) not make that choice there.

Libertarian World does seem to be filled with people choosing to do the right thing of their own free will when in the real world historically they haven't.
 
You have also left out the option of: "Do not support mandatory vaccination, but will not refuse them for myself."

This approximates my position. I think it proper that vaccinations be a pre-requisite for some functions, such as public schools, military service or overseas travel, but do not believe they should be mandatory for everyone.

Edited to add: Not a Libertarian.

However current disease prevalence data suggests that when exemptions are easier to get then more people get the disease and vaccinations don't work well in a vacuum in a population as the reduced risk found in decreased transmission means that most people won't even have to be exposed to test their vaccine-raised antibodies.

That leaky ship only stays afloat if everyone that can help pump the bilges helps. (there's probably a better analogy out there)
 

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