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Pentagon Strike?

lyghtningbyrd said:
Has anyone else seen this?

http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf

This site/movie claims the pentagon was hit by a missle or possibly a small plane. (not a Boeing)

Sounds like bulls**t to me, but its a damn convincing little movie.

Opinions?
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OK. I quit watching it because flash gives you no information about when it's going to end.

Just one question:

Do they come to a 'motivation' portion?

Why fake a Boeing strike on the Pentagon?

or

Why pretend like a missile strike (or commuter jet) was actually a 757?

Who are the nefarious people behind this fraud and what is their purpose in lying to us?
 
Re: Re: Pentagon Strike?

aerocontrols said:
OK. I quit watching it because flash gives you no information about when it's going to end.

Just one question:

Do they come to a 'motivation' portion?

Why fake a Boeing strike on the Pentagon?

or

Why pretend like a missile strike (or commuter jet) was actually a 757?

Who are the nefarious people behind this fraud and what is their purpose in lying to us?
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I believe that the motivation runs something along these lines...

9/11 was a fake -- either the US government did it as a pretext for an expansionist war against Muslims and to justify taking over control of the Middle east and its oil resources, OR the Israelies did it to bring the US closer into Isreal's nefarious control and to launch a war by proxy with Muslim and Arabs.

If I am not mistaken, wasn't there a crazy french guy with a best seller (in France) who was pumping this film and a version of events something like I've outlined?
 
Yeah actually I watched it again, and I am sure its complete ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

I found a picture of the Pentagon after the attacks with plane debris on the lawn.

Also, you're right, there really isn't an actual claim being made.

I don't even care anymore about this. It's obviously just some ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ conspiracy theory.
 
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headscratcher4 said:
I believe that the motivation runs something along these lines...

9/11 was a fake -- either the US government did it as a pretext for an expansionist war against Muslims and to justify taking over control of the Middle east and its oil resources, OR the Israelies did it to bring the US closer into Isreal's nefarious control and to launch a war by proxy with Muslim and Arabs.

If I am not mistaken, wasn't there a crazy french guy with a best seller (in France) who was pumping this film and a version of events something like I've outlined?
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You've given the standard explanation of why a government might want to fake 9/11 generally. I want to know about the Pentagon attack specifically.

To give a coherent explanation we'll need to establish why the method of Pentagon attack was fake (pretending a missile or small plane was actually a large plane) and this was not the case with the WTC attack.

That is, if the fakers can fly two full-sized jets into the WTC (assuming that everyone agrees that all those videos and still photos were not faked - but if they were, why not do the same for the Pentagon as well?) but for reasons unknown cannot do the same to the Pentagon, why take the risk of faking the Pentagon strike? What's the motivation?

MattJ
 
No supporting evidence for a missile or smaller plane that I could see. It could very well have been a bus, the Flash or a donkey carrying the Virgin Mary for all the evidence given for some other scenario.

Virtually nothing against a Boeing 757 being the actual culprit other than layman's skepticism about structural damage and vague eyewitness statements.

"We heard what sounded like a missile."


The explosion or the flight?

I'm not an explosions expert, but to some degree, I'd wager all explosions sound like missiles...

As for the flight, how many people have the background or knowledge to distinguish between a jet flying at 350 MPH low to the ground and a missile flying at that same speed?

Pretty weak.
 
lyghtningbyrd said:
It's obviously just some bulls**t conspiracy theory.
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It was discussed (and "proven") on the Art Bell radio show a few weeks ago. (My coworker likes to listen. I think he's trying to give me high blood pressure.)
 
And aside from all of the other questions, what then happened to Flight 77 and its passengers if it didn't hit the Pentagon?
 
duckhook said:
And aside from all of the other questions, what then happened to Flight 77 and its passengers if it didn't hit the Pentagon?
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Pffft!

They are all in on it.

I'm sure they are all living it up in the Bahamas and having a real good laugh.....

at tax-payers expense, no doubt! :mad:
 
headscratcher4 said:
Don't worry, knowing our government, they're living it up in Rapid City or Omaha....
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:roll: I forgot this was a Republican administration.
 
Dammit, I saw this thread title and thought that the Pentagon was going on strike! That's it, brothers and sisters - no more intelligence gathering and strategic planning until you have secured a 5% increase in wages in real terms and full dental coverage for spouse and family!

Bit of a disappointment really.
 
Blue Monk said:
Good link, Grammy. We have a local conspiracy nut (Alex Jones) that's been getting a lot of mileage out of this nonsense.
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Except for one thing:

Last updated: 1 April 2002
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Is this a message from the Snopes people (who are probably being threatened) that their explination is, in itself, a hoax? Are they trying to tell us that they are being forced to write what they did?

I find this troubling.
 
Ed said:
Except for one thing:

Is this a message from the Snopes people (who are probably being threatened) that their explination is, in itself, a hoax? Are they trying to tell us that they are being forced to write what they did?

I find this troubling.
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Yes...you have too much time on your hands.
 
Grammatron said:
Yes...you have too much time on your hands.
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No, I am busy, really. Really I am. I just noticed this .........
 
Ed said:
Except for one thing:



Is this a message from the Snopes people (who are probably being threatened) that their explination is, in itself, a hoax? Are they trying to tell us that they are being forced to write what they did?

I find this troubling.
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All I know is that this proves the legends are true and nothing escapes the eye of Ed.
 
As much as it pains me to acknowledge the information in films such as this, where did all the security footage go?

When Irish terrorists were setting off bombs in London, the authorities were quick to release stills from cameras on buildings all around the blast zones. We often saw wanted men going about their business on TV, and on occasions the bombs themselves going off---the largest device ever to be set off in peacetime was captured and broadcast by an ITN news crew.

In the US, all relevant 9/11 film has allegedly been removed---we're told it was spirited away from around Pentagon and that it was seized at previous targets such as the Murrah building. Is there a way of finding out whether this is true?

Interestingly enough, I don't recall any conspiracy theories surrounding the IRA campaign...
 
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