Hawk one
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The oh-so-obvious joke here is that Penn's marriage is definite proof of the paranormal. He must have made a deal with the Devil or somethin. 
Bad jokes aside, I'm sure we're all happy for him.
Bad jokes aside, I'm sure we're all happy for him.
Kopji
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Ok, so I watch the wedding. -Yawn-. I then tuned into an awesome live webcast of a full demonic wedding regalia with tombstones and casket...
Sheesh! for a couple bucks more he could have had the full demonic crypt rites with the grim reaper officiating, rising to the podium from a wooden coffin. Or maybe the Egyptian wedding, being bourne in by slave girls. We'd be so proud... -sniff-
Instead, I'm reminded of the wedding of one of my first bosses: a very dippy but sweet scientist. My very first day on the job and I'm greeted with a soap opera where she and her boyfriend (who worked in another lab) were having a panic attack because they'd "been living in sin" for about two years and her parents were coming to visit the next day. He's cool about it but she is in a hysterical panic that they'll find out the truth. So they ran off and got married that very evening.
So... I sorta expect that's how it went with them, but what's Penn's excuse???
Sheesh! for a couple bucks more he could have had the full demonic crypt rites with the grim reaper officiating, rising to the podium from a wooden coffin. Or maybe the Egyptian wedding, being bourne in by slave girls. We'd be so proud... -sniff-
Instead, I'm reminded of the wedding of one of my first bosses: a very dippy but sweet scientist. My very first day on the job and I'm greeted with a soap opera where she and her boyfriend (who worked in another lab) were having a panic attack because they'd "been living in sin" for about two years and her parents were coming to visit the next day. He's cool about it but she is in a hysterical panic that they'll find out the truth. So they ran off and got married that very evening.
So... I sorta expect that's how it went with them, but what's Penn's excuse???
I'm personally very shocked and surprised at that myself!
Based on their Showtime show ("Penn and Teller's BULL---T!") you'd think he'd be vehemently AGAINST the entire concept of marriage. They had an episode on "The business of Love" where they interviewed an author of a book entitled "The Myth of Monogomy." And now HE ---of all people--- is getting married?!?!?!?!?!?
I think if we were to check on the current weather conditions of Hell, we might find evidence of frost!
Based on their Showtime show ("Penn and Teller's BULL---T!") you'd think he'd be vehemently AGAINST the entire concept of marriage. They had an episode on "The business of Love" where they interviewed an author of a book entitled "The Myth of Monogomy." And now HE ---of all people--- is getting married?!?!?!?!?!?
I think if we were to check on the current weather conditions of Hell, we might find evidence of frost!
Ribbitalu
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marriage and monogamy
I think hell is still quite safe from a blizzard -- I have to question since when does marriage preclude sexual strategies other than monogamy? You can still be married to enjoy the legal and social benefits, but sexually or emotionally be something other than strictly monogamous. And I do believe some humans are truly monogamous as well. Ok, I hope my husband isn't lurking on this forum.
But seriously, maybe they are truly the monogamous type, and I say congratulations to them both.
I think hell is still quite safe from a blizzard -- I have to question since when does marriage preclude sexual strategies other than monogamy? You can still be married to enjoy the legal and social benefits, but sexually or emotionally be something other than strictly monogamous. And I do believe some humans are truly monogamous as well. Ok, I hope my husband isn't lurking on this forum.
But seriously, maybe they are truly the monogamous type, and I say congratulations to them both.
Jack of Hearts
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Wow. I have to say, my suspicions that P&T were a gay couple were not helped by the video of Penn's marriage. They were not helped, that is to say, so much as reinforced with titanium and insured for thousands of dollars. Best of luck to the three of them! (Or is this a setup for a card trick? I got it! The baby will come out holding the 3 of Clubs!)
Jack of Hearts
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I did, but I'm not quite sure how it applies... is Penn like the black radical/gay dude, or am I Banky? I'm more of a more eloquent Jay, really...
Respectfully,
Clavis
Respectfully,
Clavis
I don't think it's polite to speculate on the relationships of others but I will say this about the ep on marriage:
There's certainly statistical evidence enough to show that marriage is still popular. It's popular enough that gay rights activists wish to have that legally binding contract. It's useful if you have kids and cuts down on paperwork (and confusion when there’s a parent-teacher night - as I can say with my own anecdotal evidence!).
I think (and feel free to say otherwise) the point was being made in the ep that it's silly to think that the notion of monogamy being a natural state between humans?
I personally feel that if my partner died (and sadly, I think - and may be wrong again, feel free to show me evidence otherwise - that men are more likely to die than women in a marriage, generally from old age? and therefore I may have to face that) that I'd be bloody devastated but wouldn't rule out the likelihood of finding love again. And I'd sincerely hope the same applies to him if I was dead or if we were divorced. Life is too short to spend it alone without a state of either marriage or friendship or kinship or whatever!
Have a look at how many people remarry. Or divorce. Or have multiple relationships with many partners when dating. Or even have two or more steady or interchangable partners (either unaware of each other or maybe even totally aware and fine with it!). I've got a book here, "Sex with Kings : 500 Years of Adultery, Power, Rivalry, and Revenge" by Eleanor Herman [review: rather lightweight, gossipy but was breezy enough to read at the beach] which outlines relationships where multiple partners for the monarchy existed. Certainly during periods of history it was condoned and even encouraged. Things changed, of course (look at Camilla Parker Bowles and people's attitudes to her) but it still happens.
Anyway. I think my point is that it's absurd to think that marriage is some sort of 'bite my thumb' at multiple-partner relationships (by which I mean being a person who commits or has relationships with more than one person during their life, not necessarily a polygamous person). I'd say that it's a message of commitment but doesn't necessarily mean that I or others are ignoring the fact that circumstances may change and affect a marriage (death, divorce, finding some hottie to share the bed and house with...) or that humans are in any way different to other animals. We're designed to 'spread seed' and marriage is one way to do it but doesn't mean that it's the only way.
Why not just say 'best of luck to them'? Or better yet, ask them yourself by raising it as a question on the P&T website, because you may get an answer there - I don't think you'll get one here.
(Edited to correct spelling error - and to add that Cancerwoman pretty much said it already with more eloquence!! )
There's certainly statistical evidence enough to show that marriage is still popular. It's popular enough that gay rights activists wish to have that legally binding contract. It's useful if you have kids and cuts down on paperwork (and confusion when there’s a parent-teacher night - as I can say with my own anecdotal evidence!).
I think (and feel free to say otherwise) the point was being made in the ep that it's silly to think that the notion of monogamy being a natural state between humans?
I personally feel that if my partner died (and sadly, I think - and may be wrong again, feel free to show me evidence otherwise - that men are more likely to die than women in a marriage, generally from old age? and therefore I may have to face that) that I'd be bloody devastated but wouldn't rule out the likelihood of finding love again. And I'd sincerely hope the same applies to him if I was dead or if we were divorced. Life is too short to spend it alone without a state of either marriage or friendship or kinship or whatever!
Have a look at how many people remarry. Or divorce. Or have multiple relationships with many partners when dating. Or even have two or more steady or interchangable partners (either unaware of each other or maybe even totally aware and fine with it!). I've got a book here, "Sex with Kings : 500 Years of Adultery, Power, Rivalry, and Revenge" by Eleanor Herman [review: rather lightweight, gossipy but was breezy enough to read at the beach] which outlines relationships where multiple partners for the monarchy existed. Certainly during periods of history it was condoned and even encouraged. Things changed, of course (look at Camilla Parker Bowles and people's attitudes to her) but it still happens.
Anyway. I think my point is that it's absurd to think that marriage is some sort of 'bite my thumb' at multiple-partner relationships (by which I mean being a person who commits or has relationships with more than one person during their life, not necessarily a polygamous person). I'd say that it's a message of commitment but doesn't necessarily mean that I or others are ignoring the fact that circumstances may change and affect a marriage (death, divorce, finding some hottie to share the bed and house with...) or that humans are in any way different to other animals. We're designed to 'spread seed' and marriage is one way to do it but doesn't mean that it's the only way.
Why not just say 'best of luck to them'? Or better yet, ask them yourself by raising it as a question on the P&T website, because you may get an answer there - I don't think you'll get one here.
(Edited to correct spelling error - and to add that Cancerwoman pretty much said it already with more eloquence!!
)Kopji
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Oooo ok.
"Best of luck to them"
Woo hoo! We're going to try out an internet dvd rental service this year. I've already got the P&T "Bullshit!" DVD's on the list. Right up there with 'Strange Brew'.
Can't even rent them here in the stupid little red riding hood backwoods town. I doubt its a Religious Right conspiracy but I suppose I could always make one up.
"Best of luck to them"
Woo hoo! We're going to try out an internet dvd rental service this year. I've already got the P&T "Bullshit!" DVD's on the list. Right up there with 'Strange Brew'.
Can't even rent them here in the stupid little red riding hood backwoods town. I doubt its a Religious Right conspiracy but I suppose I could always make one up.
Kopji said:
Oooo, Religious Right conspiracy....
No, for us it's just lack of knowledge of who they are that makes it unavailable. There's once speciality store that has it for rent (one of those festival film places) but we got our copy off Amazon.com.
