Out the window

[MagicTony]

Things that (as of today) have officially been thrown out the window:
- women's rights
- funding for quality education
- policy-making based on scientific data
- separation of church and state

Feel free to add to the list.

 

[circuit slave]

Things that (as of today) have officially been thrown out the window:
- women's rights
- funding for quality education
- policy-making based on scientific data
- separation of church and state

Feel free to add to the list.

Michael Moore
Al Frankin
Sean Penn
Puff Daddy
Bruce Springsteen
George Soros

 

[corplinx]

funding for quality education

You really need to stop listening to the reactionaries sad at Kerry's loss.

Education is a state issue. It is primarily state funded and should be. To get an education standards bill through the filibuster, Bush compromised and added tons of federal dollars.

This is one of those "wrong from each side issues". It was a pretty pragmatic compromise but economic conservatives bashed Bush for spending too much and leftists turned around later and claimed it wasn't enough.

However, education should still be a states issue primarily. It was before Bush took office. Why is funding local schools now Bush's job?

I ask all this rhetorically because I realize you are in a state of emotional anxiety over Bush's win much like Shanek, Thaiboxerken, and JJ who have posted other reactionary and shrill threads.

Try to not to make any threads until you've had a few beers and calmed down.

 

[Zep]

What's been thrown out the window, as far as we can see from here, is any right by the USA to claim that it is different from and arising above those grim years of the Communists in power in Russia. Completely different "religions", of course, but it's the same methodology being used to enforce state-supported right-think internally and externally. And, more importantly, it's the same fear being induced...

 

[Cleon]

Let's not forget that lovely constitutional ban on same-sex marriage we'll have to look forward to now.

 

[MagicTony]

Education is a state issue. It is primarily state funded and should be. To get an education standards bill through the filibuster, Bush compromised and added tons of federal dollars.

Let me clarify this. Bush is spending plenty of money on education . . . he's just spending it incorrectly. Let me tie this together with the statement about science in policy-making. This year, Bush has budgeted $270 million to go to pretty much any organization that is teaching abstinence-only sex education. This means, the money can be collected by churches and evangelical organizations or schools. By funding this type of education, he has trumped the more effective form of sex education: abstinence based, comprehensive sex ed. Abstinence-only sex education does not work . . . this has been demonstrated by a whole host of scientific studies, yet Bush ignores this information. He chooses to fund the form of education that fits best with his religious beliefs, not the data. So, he's putting america's youth at risk.

I think that's horrible.

 

[mortimer]

Education is a state issue. It is primarily state funded and should be. To get an education standards bill through the filibuster, Bush compromised and added tons of federal dollars.

Two words: Unfunded mandates.

 

[patnray]

What's horrible is the abject failure of the dems to make an issue of this and to sieze the moral high ground.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

The American people have spoken. G.W.Bush is the president.
We are guilty of electing an Ideologue who views world politics in a 6th grade bible school fashion. We have chosen the person who will dictate ( Yes dictate , since both houses are controlled by republicans) policy's that will effect the whole world. Every reasonably educated person knows what that means, That there are people who embrace the overreaching by the administration, and try to justify it in the name of some nebulous concept of " security" says nothing other then even the majority of people CAN be fooled. There are masses of people in Russia who yearn for a return of Stalin. It seems that everyone wants a daddy to protect them, whether it be a "voice" from the sky or a loonie fundie in the whitehouse.

I am gratified that at least ~%50 of Americans ( and most foreign countries) see thru this bull$hit. I am ashamed that My country is moving back-wards to a fairy tail of a 50's leave it to beaver fiction. We will pay a price. Forewarned is forearmed.

 

[circuit slave]

The American people have spoken. G.W.Bush is the president.
We are guilty of electing an Ideologue who views world politics in a 6th grade bible school fashion. We have chosen the person who will dictate ( Yes dictate , since both houses are controlled by republicans) policy's that will effect the whole world. Every reasonably educated person knows what that means, That there are people who embrace the overreaching by the administration, and try to justify it in the name of some nebulous concept of " security" says nothing other then even the majority of people CAN be fooled. There are masses of people in Russia who yearn for a return of Stalin. It seems that everyone wants a daddy to protect them, whether it be a "voice" from the sky or a loonie fundie in the whitehouse.

I am gratified that at least ~%50 of Americans ( and most foreign countries) see thru this bull$hit. I am ashamed that My country is moving back-wards to a fairy tail of a 50's leave it to beaver fiction. We will pay a price. Forewarned is forearmed.

Stop it, TillEulenspiegel, and get over here!

There, there.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

As usual Your comments and contributions to the general discourse are underappriciated.

 

[circuit slave]

As usual Your comments and contributions to the general discourse are underappriciated.

Okay, I'm sorry...............................but can I still get that hug?

 

[Jocko]

Let's not forget that lovely constitutional ban on same-sex marriage we'll have to look forward to now.

You obviously have no grasp of at least two concepts:

1. How the Constitution is amended, and
2. The difference between PR and policy.

 

[MagicTony]

Today, as a result of the emotionally draining events of the last two days, I decided to wipe the slate clean, as it were. I am going to pretend that George W. Bush is a new president. I have taken down the propoganda from my cubicle and am supporting Bush until he gives me reason to withdraw support. I am skeptical of his will to unite all Americans, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I suggest that everyone who voted for Kerry do the same thing. We had our day to complain, now we have to make the best of the situation.

Tony

P.S. Puppies are the key to a unified America: Puppies