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Our DNA is mutating

Deetee

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I toyed with the idea of putting this post over on the science board, but not for too long, as it contains absolutely no scientific content whatsoever. Over lunch I found the following web site, which really puts the "oo" in "Woo".
Selected examples for your enjoyment - the first is from the author of a wonderful site called (yup, you guessed it) Quantum Awakening
The light and the truth that you wear internally and externally is shifting gears as one who is going up and down many hills. You all on this day have birthed your self into more of who you were destined to become. You have also on this day, birthed the DNA of Light..........Each of you holds a different position of light. What a boring world it would be if you all were of the same flavor. We ask you to open up to the 31 flavors of Cosmic Light. Each one of you will eventually come into the flavor of the month position willingly, we hope. You are shifting. The sands of time are shifting. It is time to see your light. At this time we will leave you, we are the Pleiadians.
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It also seems our DNA is mutating, at least according to "Dr" Berrenda Fox, whose claim to fame seems to be that she was working with Fox television network to bring about an understanding of the extraterrestrials such as those seen in the "X Files".
Everyone has one double helix of DNA. What we are finding is that there are other helixes that are being formed. In the double helix there are two strands of DNA coiled into a spiral. It is my understanding that we will be developing twelve helixes. During this time, which seems to have started maybe 5 to 20 years ago, we have been mutating. This is the scientific explanation....... The changes are not known publicly, because the scientific community feels it would frighten the population. However, people are changing at the cellular level. I am working with three children right now who have three DNA helixes. Most people know and feel this..... These are children who can move objects across the room just by concentrating on them, or they can fill glasses of water just by looking at them. They're telepathic.
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Well even if she cannot distinguish between telepathy and telekinesis, she has at least done a bit of solid scientific research....
Our immune and endocrine systems are the most evident of these changes. That is one of the reasons I work with research in immunological testing and therapy. Some adults that I have tested actually do have another DNA helix forming. Some are even getting their third.
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The easiest way to mutate our DNA is through a virus. Consequently viruses are not necessarily bad. Viruses live only on living tissue. DNA viruses like Epstein Barr and the Herpes 6 change cellular structure. The retrovirus HIV is not a DNA virus. Instead of mutating the body, it actually eats it up. Most people who go through this process and come out the other side have a new profession, a new way of thinking, or at least a starting of a new way of life. Even though they may feel really sick, tired, or hopeless at times, it is a gift. They are being given a chance to change their DNA structure and their body into a lighter, healthier body that can see them into the next generation. The angels that are being seen are signs that we are shifting. As I understand it, we have until about 2012 to complete this process.
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That will be so these mutants can compete in the 2012 London Olympics?

Some more on this DNA mutation comes from an article 'The Bigger Picture' by Susanna Thorpe-Clark:
We are being changed physically from carbon-based beings with 2 strands of DNA into crystalline beings with 1,024 strands of DNA (eventually), because only crystalline substances can exist on higher dimensional levels. We are in fact having our bodies merged with Sirian DNA strands.
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An explanation emanates from research done in Russia, apparently...
The Russian scientists also found out that our DNA can cause disturbing patterns in the vacuum, thus producing magnetized wormholes! Wormholes are the microscopic equivalents of the so-called Einstein-Rosen bridges in the vicinity of black holes (left by burned-out stars). These are tunnel connections between entirely different areas in the universe through which information can be transmitted outside of space and time. The DNA attracts these bits of information and passes them on to our consciousness. This process of hypercommunication is most effective in a state of relaxation.....
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The side effect encountered most often in hypercommunication also in human beings are inexplicable electromagnetic fields in the vicinity of the persons concerned. Electronic devices like CD players and the like can be irritated and cease to function for hours.
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I knew there was a perfectly good explanation why my TV remote control never works....

There is another phenomenon linked to DNA and wormholes. Normally, these supersmall wormholes are highly unstable and are maintained only for the tiniest fractions of a second. Under certain conditions (read about it in the Fosar/Bludorf book above) stable wormholes can organise themselves which then form distinctive vacuum domains in which for example gravity can transform into electricity. Vacuum domains are self-radiant balls of ionised gas that contain considerable amounts of energy. There are regions in Russia where such radiant balls appear very often. Following the ensuing confusion the Russians started massive research programmes leading finally to some of the discoveries mentions above. Many people know vacuum domains as shiny balls in the sky. The attentive look at the in wonder and ask themselves, what they could be.

I thought once: "Hello up there. If you happen to be a UFO, fly in a triangle." And suddenly, the light balls moved in a triangle.
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To come back to the DNA: It apparently is also an organic superconductor that can work at normal body temperature. As one recently learned, all superconductors are able to store light and thus information. This is a further explanation of how the DNA can store information.
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"The dreamer was awestruck by a huge sphere with many facets in the sky. It had once been a woman in the very distant past, but had turned into this thing. It still had maternal feelings. Sometimes it came close to the earth, like near mountains inhabited by humans, and felt connections. The sphere then exploded, filling the sky with stars. (or something like that). Then, the dreamer was by a tree, and the message was communicated to her that the object/woman communicated to us through our amino acids."
Since amino acids are molecules that make up DNA, this seemed to be the very same message as the other sources.
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Their concepts of chemistry, or indeed reality, seem to be entirely nonexistent. I too have some thoughts, but will charitably keep these to myself.



 
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Whuff. This gibberish makes Star Trek technobabble look cogent and scientifically accurate.

[edit] Of course, our DNA is always mutating. Happens all the time. But not into the way this person is saying; that's simply nonsense. As you said, whoever wrote this likes scientific jargon but uses it like a child stacking Lego and wooden bricks and shoe boxes indiscriminately. It doesn't hold up.
 
I love the smell of woo in the morning. Smells like... confusion.
 
To avoid unduly stressing the Little Black Duck's Web server, here are the results:

Could be average quack fodder. This web site has quite a bit of loosely defined terms and pseudoscientific language with a smattering of alternative medicine speak. It is full of scientific jargon that is out of place and probably doesn't know the meaning of any of the terms. Using lots of physics terms like this rarely has any meaning outside of physics books. It shows little or no sceptical awareness and so should be treated with caution!

This site has a has a currently measurable quackery content of 9 Canards
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Perceptive indeed for a Web script.

[edit] I wonder if there ought to be some kind of anti-Turing test... to determine whether actual living people less convincingly present evidence of intelligence than a computer...
 
FSM damn it, not the twelve strands of DNA thing again. It seems to figure highly in many different brands of woo, for some inexplicable reason.

Why... won't... stupid... ideas... die?
 
Is this why I can pass through walls, shoot laser beams from my eyes, and heal instantly? Someone should call Dr. Xavier.
 
Meffy said:
Whuff. This gibberish makes Star Trek technobabble look cogent and scientifically accurate.

[edit] Of course, our DNA is always mutating. Happens all the time. But not into the way this person is saying; that's simply nonsense. As you said, whoever wrote this likes scientific jargon but uses it like a child stacking Lego and wooden bricks and shoe boxes indiscriminately. It doesn't hold up.
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DNA does indeed mutuate. A contaminated site exposure involving live organisms has apparently permanently altered my DNA. This according to pathology, epidemiology, and bioremediation experts.
Gives new meaning to the phrase "You are what you eat." It should say "You are what you eat, drink, and/or breath."
 
Note my first sig line. Now I may have to add:

It is a rare foray into gobbledygook that does not begin with a tribute to mutation.

~~ Paul
 
31 flavors of Cosmic Light...

31 flavors of Baskin-Robins ice cream...

COINCIDENCE?
 
Meffy said:
All of it? The same way in each cell?
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Well, I don't know. That is a good question though. I know every cell is affected, but not sure if there are variables in affect from cell to cell. I really like that question. I wish I would have thought of it.
 
born said:
Well, I don't know. That is a good question though. I know every cell is affected, but not sure if there are variables in affect from cell to cell. I really like that question. I wish I would have thought of it.
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Just occured to me to clarify: I am referring to every cell of the body. Is this what you meant? Or were you referring to the DNA alone?
 
Well, our DNA is mutating. Replication only makes an error in one out of every ten million basepairs, I think (it's pretty rare). So human DNA does mutate. And there are things that get into the cell and mess with the DNA- so mutation that doesn't occur during replication is also possible. But every living thing known has double stranded DNA. Some have one copy of each chromosome, others have more. (Humans have 2 copies of each non-sex chromosome)

I assume by "an extra helix" they mean an additional copy of a chromosome. Unless we're talking about sex chromosomes (where duplication does strange stuff) or Chromosome 21 (which causes Down's Syndrome), this is fatal.

(There are two others that aren't immediately fatal, but they are very rare and fantastically debilitating)

So yes, our DNA is mutating. No, we're not growing extra helices.
 
Loon said:
Well, our DNA is mutating. Replication only makes an error in one out of every ten million basepairs, I think (it's pretty rare). So human DNA does mutate. And there are things that get into the cell and mess with the DNA- so mutation that doesn't occur during replication is also possible. But every living thing known has double stranded DNA. Some have one copy of each chromosome, others have more. (Humans have 2 copies of each non-sex chromosome)

I assume by "an extra helix" they mean an additional copy of a chromosome. Unless we're talking about sex chromosomes (where duplication does strange stuff) or Chromosome 21 (which causes Down's Syndrome), this is fatal.

(There are two others that aren't immediately fatal, but they are very rare and fantastically debilitating)

So yes, our DNA is mutating. No, we're not growing extra helices.
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I would like to hear more about the two rare and fantastically debilitating duplications.
Also: If DNA mutation can have such profound affect on the physical form, what affect does it have, if any in known science on brain activity? How about in theory?
 
Well, meddling with DNA is also a part of the ayahuasca effects, a guy told me once. It's supposed to fix your DNA. I guess DNA is a favorite part of technobabble. The biggest number of strands promised is 48. Maybe one day through this extra DNA we'll all get tentacles so we are ready for the arrival of the Squid Overlords (via PZ)

Are those extra strands are supposed to be non-material, e.g. not showing up upon testing...
 
born said:
DNA does indeed mutuate. A contaminated site exposure involving live organisms has apparently permanently altered my DNA. This according to pathology, epidemiology, and bioremediation experts.
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Can you tell us a bit more about this?
What type of contamination? How has it altered your DNA? How can an epidemiologist demonstrate alterations in DNA? What exactly is a bioremediation expert?
 
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