OT laws that are upheld in the NT

saizai

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The way Phelps (and others) back the "fags are EEEEEEVIL!" line is basically, the NT repeats the OT on that point in saying "yeah, don't do it" and the OT is all "STONE THEM!!!!". (Of course it says that about a bunch of other quote-unquote "ceremonial laws" too [like working on the Sabbath, even to gather firewood; or disobeying your master if you're a slave]. Sucks to be them eh?)

So what I want is a list: what, besides the very generic sort of stuff, is reiterated? I.e. what harsh stuff from the OT has the NT's approval? (And isn't in the "well that was the Old Covenant; would've sucked to live then but we don't!" list.)

Here's the start:
  1. all ten commandments
  2. caveat: you're allowed to work on sabbath, so ignore that one.
  3. no gay sex (lesbian sex? maybe)
  4. caveat: nobody is allowed to enforce the punishments (e.g. "stoning to death") unless they're perfect, which they're not. but god will punish everything with eternal torture, so that should be good enough.
Reminder: please ONLY discuss stuff that is in the OT and is explicitly upheld in the NT. If it's "upheld with caveats", that is okay too, just try not to go too long about the boring ones or about ones were the "caveat" totally guts it. Please cite all relevant verses if you know them.

Thanks!
 
All of the women are second-class citizens stuff. Basically, much of what Paul writes. I Corinthians has an extensive section on what women should not do (such as speaking in church).
 
I Corinthians is a great place to find a lot of OT stuff reiterated.
 
I Corinthians... there's something I never thought I'd have to see again. Everything in Corinthians exists to reiterate that women are a lesser creation and brought orgional sin to humanity. Everything from women being silent to women having to cover their heads in church has OT roots.
 
Basically, the Jews made a distinction between the Mosaic Law (mainly expounded in Leviticus and Deuteronomy), which the Jews had to follow and the Noahide Law that the righteous Gentiles (Gentiles who decided to follow the God of Israel without undergoing full conversion to Judaism) had to follow.

The Seven Noahide Laws are the following:
  • Prohibition of idolatry
  • Prohibition of blasphemy
  • Prohibition of murder
  • Prohibition of theft
  • Prohibition of illicit relations
  • Prohibition of eating live meat
  • Prohibition of failing to establish courts of justice

The two passages in the Acts of the Apostles (Acts 10-11 and Acts 21) which are used to excuse Christians from the Mosaic Law seems to say that Gentile converts to Christianity do not need to convert to Judaism first.

It is not clear whether "buggery" was originally included in the prohibition against "illicit relations" (incest) or not, but because of its inclusion in the two Leviticus lists of forbidden sex, it is usually included now.

Of course, there is nothing to stop any self-appointed preacher from adding more rules to the list, as the previous posters claim the author of 1 Corinthians did.
 
I don't know if this counts or not. Matthew 15:4, Jesus saying, "He that shall curse father or mother, let him die the death," or words similar depending on the translation.
 
Hokulele said:
All of the women are second-class citizens stuff. Basically, much of what Paul writes. I Corinthians has an extensive section on what women should not do (such as speaking in church).
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Some version of the basic message (wives be subject to husbands, etc.) occurs in many of Paul's letters. Peter tosses it in too. And don't forget to cover your head.
 
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