Osteopathic Doctors: Redundant Medical Woo?

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Physicians in the US is divided into two distinct branches, Allopaths and Osteopaths. Allopathic Doctors have the title MD(Medical Doctor) while Osteopaths have the title DO(Doctor of Osteopathy). MDs significantly outnumber DOs and now Naturopathic "Doctors" (NDs) are an addition to the whole confusion of watering down the title of doctor.

Many DOs are professional physicians and are up to the standard of MDs. However, osteopathy have its roots in chiropractic although they would claim some differences in their techniques and evidence to support their OMM. The basici of OMM is similar to the woo claims in chiropractic with "nerves" and spinal misalignment etc.

While many modern DOs seldom if ever use their OMM(Osteopathy Manipulative Medicine) techniques and many DOs are very well trained in standard allopathic medicine, I've never figured out the need for a separate branch of physicians?

Does anyone have insights or opinions on this topic?
 
Do real US doctors really call themselves Allopaths? Isn't that really conceding the ground to the homoeopaths?
Modern evidence based medicine is not an allopathic system.
 
Do real US doctors really call themselves Allopaths? Isn't that really conceding the ground to the homoeopaths?
Modern evidence based medicine is not an allopathic system.

Not many do. Most just call themselves doctors. However, it has become "accepted" by some docs to use the term allopath to describe "regular" doctors.

I don't believe the vast majority of doctors in the US even osteopath accept homeopathy as "medicine" although from experience, osteopaths tend to two varieties; the "I'm just a regular doctor" and the "I'm better than the MDs since I can do what they do and do OMM as well" variety...I've only met a few of the latter and they tend to believe in "alternative" medicine(to be fair a fair number of MDs do as well).
 
Not many do. Most just call themselves doctors. However, it has become "accepted" by some docs to use the term allopath to describe "regular" doctors.
The term "allopath" was invented by Hahnemann (the inventor of homeopathy) as an insult to non-homeopaths. It is not a favored term for science-based doctors.
 
Physicians in the US is divided into two distinct branches, Allopaths and Osteopaths. Allopathic Doctors have the title MD(Medical Doctor) while Osteopaths have the title DO(Doctor of Osteopathy). MDs significantly outnumber DOs and now Naturopathic "Doctors" (NDs) are an addition to the whole confusion of watering down the title of doctor.

Many DOs are professional physicians and are up to the standard of MDs.


In the UK the situation is different: osteopaths are generally not medical doctors. They are regulated by the General Osteopathic Council, which has material on its website claiming that osteopathy can effectively treat, for example, asthma in babies and children.

The Institute of Osteopaths, which seems to be another mainstream body, has material on its website claiming that the germ theory of disease is wrong, and suggesting that is is a "Big Pharma" conspiracy:

Now then!

Germs are made by your body in an effort to clear up a messy environment. Once this has been achieved they will automatically disappear again. Proven several times in the last 150 years alone, and still not accepted in our world.

Don't be cynical: it has nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines and germ killing substances, and the financial lucrative businesses of making and selling them; not to mention the high regard in which all these cleaver brains are held and the jobs they are holding on to.
They used to have an advert on their site for an "event" titled 'So you think diseases are caused by little germy-wermies?':
After the great success of our autumn first conference, exploring the first osteopathic principles of natural immunity and structural integrity, an evening seminar exposing the modern medical mythology of germ theory is required.
See here.

However, osteopathy have its roots in chiropractic...


Nope: the idea of osteopathy was developed by Andrew Taylor Still after a "prophetic vision" on the 22nd of June 1874 (although the term "osteopathy" was probably not coined until the mid 1880s) while D. D. Palmer had his revelatory experience on September 18th 1885. Coincidentally, both men also practised "magnetic healing".
 
In the UK the situation is different: osteopaths are generally not medical doctors. They are regulated by the General Osteopathic Council, which has material on its website claiming that osteopathy can effectively treat, for example, asthma in babies and children.

The Institute of Osteopaths, which seems to be another mainstream body, has material on its website claiming that the germ theory of disease is wrong, and suggesting that is is a "Big Pharma" conspiracy:


They used to have an advert on their site for an "event" titled 'So you think diseases are caused by little germy-wermies?': See here.


Nope: the idea of osteopathy was developed by Andrew Taylor Still after a "prophetic vision" on the 22nd of June 1874 (although the term "osteopathy" was probably not coined until the mid 1880s) while D. D. Palmer had his revelatory experience on September 18th 1885. Coincidentally, both men also practised "magnetic healing".

Thanks for the info. It seems osteopaths in the UK are even more woo-ish than osteopaths here. The thing is, many osteopath in the US are regular doctors who use evidence based medicine and barely if ever use OMM. Modernity has caught up with them. They tend towards primary care as opposed to specialization. However, this residual woo "philosophy" is redundant and just a sad holdover.
 
Thanks for the info. It seems osteopaths in the UK are even more woo-ish than osteopaths here. The thing is, many osteopath in the US are regular doctors who use evidence based medicine and barely if ever use OMM. Modernity has caught up with them. They tend towards primary care as opposed to specialization. However, this residual woo "philosophy" is redundant and just a sad holdover.
That sounds about right. See this article:
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/osteo.html

BTW, the year for chiropracty is 1895 (not '85).
 
I've spoken about this before on this forum...

I have a good many colleagues, in anesthesiology, who are osteopathically trained. They do not believe in, nor do they (can they) incorporate in daily practice, the priniciples of OMM. There's just no role for it in anesthesiology, as it is currently practiced in the U.S. They are competent, adequately trained, and equal clinicians in every respect to their M.D. colleagues.

The "explosion" of osteopathic schools (and doctors) in the U.S. is mostly a political one. The schools are typically less rigorous to secure an admission to than a standard Doctor of Medicine (MD) granting program in the U.S. Many students apply to both when seeking an admission to medical school. The Osteopathic school is often the "back-up" plan.

Why is this?

Starting in the early 1990's, the Council of Graduate Medical Education (COGME) affirmed what many wanted to believe by telling the public that there was a surplus of medical doctors in the U.S., and that the 125 (at the time, now 126) M.D.-granting schools should cap and curtail admissions. This created a "cartel", if you will, and imposed both a false commodity on gaining acceptance to a medical school and a subsequent degree. The M.D.-granting schools have always prided themselves in high quality selection, and subsequent high rate of retention, of candidates.

Within the past few years, people began to realize that the COGME was wrong. And, by the year 2020, there is now estimated to be a 200,000 doctor shortage in the U.S. The COGME has since reversed itself with its prior "doctor surplus" rhetoric. Recently, the number of spots available at M.D.-granting schools has been increased to help meet that demand.

The result?

Osteopathy schools are not regulated, recognized, or accredited by the American Association of Medical Colleges (AAMC). They have their own independent boards and accreditation councils, and navigate their own way through state recognition and licensure processes. Recognizing the above, the AAMC has sort of turned a blind eye to these schools being quietly opened and expanding. And, while they have separate boards, their graduates are allowed to train in graduate medical programs (residency) alongside of M.D. graduates. The Accreditation Council of Graduate Medical Education (ACGME) recognizes D.O.'s as legitimate and adequately trained medical graduates if they've matriculated through a osteopathic program recognized by their governing boards and have passed their licensure exams.

So, the number of D.O. schools has grown mainly not because of interest in the osteopathic principles taught there, but as a "second pathway" to candidates who were unable to secure a spot in a traditional U.S. school of medicine. That's a potentially controversial statement for many D.O. graduates, but those who are honest with themselves will agree with recognize it as being factual. Sure, there are still the die-hard "osteopathy is superior" types, and actively incorporate OMM in their daily practice, but these represent the small minority of current graduates.

The whole issue of COGME's shortsidedness is a frustrating one for me. The shortage of physicians, something I feel and see everyday, has allowed a toe-hold for mid-level practitioners who are currently seeking independent practice. (But, that's a separate discussion...)

So, in summary, the only thing you can tell by someone who is legally carrying the "M.D." or "D.O." title behind their name is that they have passed rigorous medical licensure exams, they have completed (or are completing) an accredited internship or residency program, and that they have, at the very least, met the minimum standards for medical practice in the U.S. The other things you can check for are board-certification in their specialty, an additional quality marker, and whether or not they have any infractions on their license (which most state medical boards will list online if you search that state's medical board records).

~Dr. Imago, M.D.
 
Dr. Imago,
I'm an MD as well but I never really had much contact with DOs until residency. I agree that the vast number of DO collegues I have are good physicians and are well trained BUT why do we have this absurd deferentiation?

Besides the pure politics and some die hards, I understand that the DOs had the chance in the 1970s to be integrated and to be accepted as MDs but due to politics, they refused. Just wanted some insignt into this since I'm not familiar with the DO history or politics.
 
Besides the pure politics and some die hards, I understand that the DOs had the chance in the 1970s to be integrated and to be accepted as MDs but due to politics, they refused. Just wanted some insignt into this since I'm not familiar with the DO history or politics.

It's the "gestalt" of OMM. They like the distinction, and "extra" treatment modality they can offer the patient. They want to be seen as "more", not necessarily "better", trained to treat the patient. It's a self-preservation/unique aspect of their training that the "die hards", who are the politicos of their paradigm, want to keep.

Many learn OMM (or OMT) during their D.O. training because it's compulsory. Most don't use it in day-to-day practice.

~Dr. Imago
 

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