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Ok, why should *this* guy live?

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"Since I have already been indicted on first degree murder and the Va. Supreme Court said that I can't be charged with capital murder again, I figured I would tell you the rest of what happened on Jan. 29, 1999, to show you how stupid all of y'all ... are," wrote Powell, who is white.

He said he had gone to the Reed house to confront Stacie for dating a black boyfriend. He admitted pinning the victim, threatening to rape her, then stabbing her in the heart when the girl resisted. He then stomped on her throat.

"I guess I forgot to mention these events when I was being questioned. Ha Ha!" he wrote in 2001. "Do you just hate yourself for being so stupid ... and saving me?"
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Uzzy said:
Because we want society to be better then him?
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This doesn't really make sense. Society isn't worse off if people like him aren't around anymore. You might even say society is better off without people like him around.
 
Morrigan said:
This doesn't really make sense. Society isn't worse off if people like him aren't around anymore. You might even say society is better off without people like him around.
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You misread. Society or the State should not ever reduce itself to the level of the murderer, which it does by using capital punishment. And yes, society would be better off without him, which is what life imprisonment is for.
 
Because he has an honest face? v
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Uzzy said:
You misread. Society or the State should not ever reduce itself to the level of the murderer, which it does by using capital punishment. And yes, society would be better off without him, which is what life imprisonment is for.
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Plus, killing him will deprive him of all those years being raped in the shower.
 
Arcade22 said:
I think you need to look up the definition of murder.
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If you're attempting to say that murder is fine when it's mandated by a court, I think you're wrong. Murder is wrong in all situations. Society should not lower itself to that level, even for guys like this one.
 
Uzzy said:
If you're attempting to say that murder is fine when it's mandated by a court, I think you're wrong. Murder is wrong in all situations. Society should not lower itself to that level, even for guys like this one.
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It's not murder if it is mandated by the court. That's precisely what he meant.
 
Uzzy said:
If you're attempting to say that murder is fine when it's mandated by a court, I think you're wrong. Murder is wrong in all situations. Society should not lower itself to that level, even for guys like this one.
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mur·der (mûrdr)
n.
1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

Stop calling this murder because this isn't. This is the state punishing a worthless criminal.
 
timhau said:
But society shoudn't reduce itself to the level of a kidnapper.
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Except that capital punishment is a final and absolute punishment. Prison is needed to protect society, and doesn't go to the extreme of killing people for their crimes (which they may not have actually committed, of course).
 
Arcade22 said:
mur·der (mûrdr)
n.
1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

Stop calling this murder because this isn't. This is the state punishing a worthless criminal.
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Understood. Therefore beating a slave to death in old testament times was not murder if they took a couple days to die because that was also not unlawful. Aren't dictionary definitions a great way to win an argument about moral issues?
 
Arcade22 said:
mur·der (mûrdr)
n.
1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

Stop calling this murder because this isn't. This is the state punishing a worthless criminal.
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No. It's the same difference in the end. The state lowers itself to the level of the murderer. The death penalty is always wrong. End of.
 
Uzzy said:
Except that capital punishment is a final and absolute punishment.
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That's the point.

(which they may not have actually committed, of course).
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That's the only reason that I am a little iffy on the subject. But this guy clearly did it so I am glad the state is going to kill him.
 
Uzzy said:
If you're attempting to say that murder is fine when it's mandated by a court, I think you're wrong. Murder is wrong in all situations. Society should not lower itself to that level, even for guys like this one.
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His point is, by definition, the death penalty does not qualify as murder since the term includes that whole " under conditions specifically covered in law" thing. "Homicide?" Arugably yes. "Murder?" Nope.

Oh hey, we covered that already. Well excuse me for eating lunch first. :boxedin:
 
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