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Oh, crud. Help!

rwguinn

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rwguinn
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Saturday night I got done working, and shut down my machine, and turned power off at the strip
Sunday, it wouldn't boot. Tried the "Repair" function (Without the disk)
IT would come up to the login screen, but keyboard was functionless.
Replaced keyboard. No change,
Tried to boot from Norton disk. When it asked for "key", the first letter I typed was inserted in all spaces, and nothing else was possible-it froze up.
Replaced Motherboard with spare. Same situation.
Windows 7 64bit Pro.
Any solutions? I am digging through the various CD's trying to find my original.
 
Can you get into the BIOS settings? If not, then there's something fundamentally wrong with your hardware. I would suggest unplugging everything but the keyboard and display, and then adding devices one by one.

If you can get into the BIOS fine, and navigate around, then I'd think it's a software problem.
 
grmcdorman said:
Can you get into the BIOS settings? If not, then there's something fundamentally wrong with your hardware. I would suggest unplugging everything but the keyboard and display, and then adding devices one by one.

If you can get into the BIOS fine, and navigate around, then I'd think it's a software problem.
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Bios is fine and navigable. Same problem with 2 Motherboards. looks like a Windoze reinstall may be forthcoming...
Damn!
 
rwguinn said:
Bios is fine and navigable. Same problem with 2 Motherboards. looks like a Windoze reinstall may be forthcoming...
Damn!
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Before you do that, do some more thinking and experimentation. Don't forget that the keyboard is actually used even before Windows gets anywhere near your hardware. An attempted reinstall may not improve things and just add to your problems.

Wish you well.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
Before you do that, do some more thinking and experimentation. Don't forget that the keyboard is actually used even before Windows gets anywhere near your hardware. An attempted reinstall may not improve things and just add to your problems.

Wish you well.
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Wudang said:
Following Gordon, if it's a problem with your USB keyboard drivers do you have a PS/2 port and keyboard you could try?
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I am able to run the Windows XP OS i have on that machine. F8 allows me to change the boot disk and do that.
It appears that Win 7 is pretty dead.
Crap.
 
BenBurch said:
Do you have an old ps/2 keyboard?

If so, try that.
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Guys and gals
Just because I am an engineer and a Republican, not to mention an "old Fart", it does not mean I am stoopid!:D
If you won't read, you cannot help me.
I replaced the Mother board.
I replaced the keyboard
I can boot on the alternate OS, with any keyboard and mouse, and with both MB's
Everything works on the 2nd OS. I can access the files on the Windows 7 disk when I am in the secondary OS.
It is not, repeat, NOT the MB, the mouse, or the keyboard.
 
rwguinn said:
Guys and gals
Just because I am an engineer and a Republican, not to mention an "old Fart", it does not mean I am stoopid!:D
If you won't read, you cannot help me.
I replaced the Mother board.
I replaced the keyboard
I can boot on the alternate OS, with any keyboard and mouse, and with both MB's
Everything works on the 2nd OS. I can access the files on the Windows 7 disk when I am in the secondary OS.
It is not, repeat, NOT the MB, the mouse, or the keyboard.
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Well, then just make a fresh install on Win7. Dont forget your back up files.
 
rwguinn said:
Guys and gals
Just because I am an engineer and a Republican, not to mention an "old Fart", it does not mean I am stoopid!:D
If you won't read, you cannot help me.
I replaced the Mother board.
I replaced the keyboard
I can boot on the alternate OS, with any keyboard and mouse, and with both MB's
Everything works on the 2nd OS. I can access the files on the Windows 7 disk when I am in the secondary OS.
It is not, repeat, NOT the MB, the mouse, or the keyboard.
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Sounds like you could boot just fine but that Win7 was hanging at the login screen.

So, yeah, sorry for coming into this late, but I'd do a reinstallation of the OS.

I find it somewhat peculiar, however, that your first thought was a mobo issue. The thing that happens upon ever single boot up is that the hardware is checked out -- keyboard, HD, mobo, video, RAM, CPU. If it were a keyboard issue, you'd most likely get a beepcode error and a text notice telling you the keyboard isn't functional. If there's a problem with the other basic hardware, you'd get a beepcode and your system wouldn't start at all.

Of course, just swapping out a keyboard for another is a decent, intelligent thing to do to try and eliminate stuck keys for example. But if you've gotten to the Win7 login screen, then the hardware probably hasn't failed (could be in the process of failing however and is working intermittently).
 
rwguinn said:
Guys and gals
Just because I am an engineer and a Republican, not to mention an "old Fart", it does not mean I am stoopid!:D
If you won't read, you cannot help me.
I replaced the Mother board.
I replaced the keyboard
I can boot on the alternate OS, with any keyboard and mouse, and with both MB's
Everything works on the 2nd OS. I can access the files on the Windows 7 disk when I am in the secondary OS.
It is not, repeat, NOT the MB, the mouse, or the keyboard.
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Oh yeah sorry the OS specific device drivers are stored on the motherboard. My bad, sorry.
 
Does it suggest that Win7 has issues with the system configuration? I doubt in this case, that is the problem because as you said you found no problem with the hardwares. So it must be Windows 7 itself crashed. Or maybe you have deleted some important system file(s).
 
I take it the OP has tried using Last Known Good configuration and/or Safe Mode from the boot menu to resolve any driver issues? Only, it doesn't appear to have been mentioned.
 
ohms said:
I take it the OP has tried using Last Known Good configuration and/or Safe Mode from the boot menu to resolve any driver issues? Only, it doesn't appear to have been mentioned.
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Oh, yeah. Did all that
So, I then tried booting from Win 7 disk, and repairing. Failed. 4 times.
I reinstalled.
on reboot, I got a choice
1) Windows 7
2) Windos 7 (recovered)
tried 2). No joy.
So, I began reloading everything. All the reboots were the same thing.
Then, today, when I shut down for a bit, I had 69 (count 'em, 69) updates to Windows. Not unexpected, since it was a new install
Just for kicks, when I restarted the machine, I tried the (recovered) again.
**** fire-I don't need no matches.
I now have 2 Windows 7 installs, one is what I had before the crap-out, the other is the new one.
WTF, over?
 
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