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Official Story of 9/11 Like Holocaust Denial

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The orignal holocaust denial came from the rank and file people of Germany, who simply could not believe their government would do something like that. (Argument from incredulity, despite evidence). Such is the case with 9/11. People simply can not believe that officials in their government would do such a thing, despite the evidence.
 
The orignal holocaust denial came from the rank and file people of Germany, who simply could not believe their government would do something like that. (Argument from incredulity, despite evidence). Such is the case with 9/11. People simply can not believe that officials in their government would do such a thing, despite the evidence.
this from a fellow who can't pour unine out of a boot when the directions are written on the heel?
 
The orignal holocaust denial came from the rank and file people of Germany, who simply could not believe their government would do something like that. (Argument from incredulity, despite evidence). Such is the case with 9/11. People simply can not believe that officials in their government would do such a thing, despite the evidence.

Please save your idiocy for another day.
 
Of all the days and times to post this drivel, it is an insult to the lives that were lost that day that you chose today.

Just try to provide any evidence which contradicts the accepted explaination that a group of dedicated hijackers flew three planes into three seperate buildings.
 
The orignal holocaust denial came from the rank and file people of Germany, who simply could not believe their government would do something like that. (Argument from incredulity, despite evidence). Such is the case with 9/11. People simply can not believe that officials in their government would do such a thing, despite the evidence.

Are you saying that you believe that the government was resonsible for 9/11?
 
The orignal holocaust denial came from the rank and file people of Germany, who simply could not believe their government would do something like that. (Argument from incredulity, despite evidence). Such is the case with 9/11. People simply can not believe that officials in their government would do such a thing, despite the evidence.
like pretty much every other claim you've made, you make it without a shred of evidence. You make stuff up "truthspeaker". Why does someone who uses the word truth in their name, make stuff up?
 
Are you joking? I seem to remember that there were war-crimes trials, Nuremberg or someplace, where officials of the Nazi government, all the way up to Goering, ADMITTED that the "Final Solution" was to kill every Jew they could. The commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, testified that he was supplied with enough Zyklon B to kill a couple of million people. (This testimony, by the way, got the CEOs of the supplying company executed.) The good burghers of Germany may not have wanted to believe that their government committed the Holocaust, but IT DID, their beliefs notwithstanding. There are mountains of evidence of Nazi guilt. There is ZERO compelling evidence of US government in 9/11. EVERY claim the CTers have made has been debunked, thoroughly, even if they don't want to hear it.

This comparison is offensive, and I'm not even Jewish.
 
See, shmuck, one of the main things that the Holocaust has is witnesses.

And more witnesses.

And even more witnesses.

Do you have any of those, ackjass?

No. What you do have is a thread in which you tried to hold yourself out as a structural engineer and got your butt whomped. And now you have an argument from a false analogy ... a very insulting analogy.

Unless you pull together an actual witness to your stupid, stupid theory, don't invoke the Holocaust again.
 
Aside from Nazis themselves trying to deny their actions, the modern Holocaust history revisionism began in the 1960's.

Looking at what Holocaust Denial is
Holocaust denial (commonly called Holocaust revisionism by its supporters) is the belief that the Holocaust did not occur as it is described by mainstream historiography. Key elements of this belief are the explicit or implicit rejection that, in the Holocaust:

The Nazi government had a policy of deliberately targeting Jews, people of Jewish ancestry, and the Roma (also known as Gypsies) for extermination as a people;
Over six million Jews[1] were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies.
Tools of efficient mass extermination, such as gas chambers, were used in extermination camps to kill Jews.
In addition, most Holocaust denial implies, or openly states, that the Holocaust is the result of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy created to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples. For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Because of this, Holocaust denial is also illegal in a number of European countries, as their governments hold that it is motivated by an anti-Semitic and anti-democratic agenda.

Holocaust deniers themselves do not accept "denier" as an appropriate term to describe their point of view, preferring the term "Holocaust revisionists" instead. They are nevertheless commonly labeled as "Holocaust deniers" to differentiate them from historical revisionists by those who consider their goal to be not historical inquiry using evidence and established methodology, but rather to try to prove that the Holocaust did not occur, regardless of historical evidence.[2]

Terminology: Holocaust denial or Holocaust revisionism?
The term "denier" (also but less often in English "negationist"[3]) is objected to by the people to whom it is applied, who prefer "revisionist," though most scholars contend that the latter term is deliberately misleading.[4] While historical revisionism is the re-examination of accepted history, with an eye towards updating it with newly discovered, more accurate, and less-biased information, "deniers" have been criticized for seeking evidence to support a preconceived theory, omitting substantial facts. Broadly, historical revisionism is the approach that history as it has been traditionally told, may not be entirely accurate and should hence be revised accordingly. Historical revisionism in this sense is a well-accepted and mainstream part of history studies, and it is applied to the study of the Holocaust as new facts emerge and change our understanding of it.

Holocaust "deniers" maintain that they apply proper revisionist principles to Holocaust history, and therefore the term Holocaust revisionism is appropriate for their point of view. Their critics, however, disagree and prefer the term Holocaust denial.

In general, the term Holocaust denial fits the description at the beginning of this article, while the term Holocaust revisionism is ambiguous, in theory ranging from Holocaust denial to standard historical techniques applied to examine aspects of the Holocaust that have been understudied. However, because the latter term has become associated with Holocaust deniers, mainstream historians today generally avoid using it to describe themselves. Though they do not use the term revisionism, historians do continue to study and revise opinions on aspects of the Holocaust, though no reputable historian has challenged the basic scale and outlines of the event. In the words of historian Donald Niewyk from Southern Methodist University: "With the main features of the Holocaust clearly visible to all but the willfully blind, historians have turned their attention to aspects of the story for which the evidence is incomplete or ambiguous. These are not minor matters by any means, but turn on such issues as Hitler's role in the event, Jewish responses to persecution, and reactions by onlookers both inside and outside Nazi-controlled Europe." [6]

Despite the best attempts of some to make a distinction between the terms Holocaust denial and Holocaust revisionism, the jailing of the discredited self-taught historical author[7] David Irving in Austria in February 2006 shows that the British news media frequently use the term revisionist when referring to a Holocaust denier. [8]
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People who have chosen to give provisional agreement to the mainstream accepted explanation of the events that occurred on 9/11 do not exhibit the above mentioned traits.
 
I think he's saying the holocaust didn't happen, or something.

No, he's saying WE are the holocaust deniers.

It's a standard tinfoiler tactic. They know they don't have squat to back thier crap up with so they reduce themselves to childish nonsense like "I know you ware but what am I?".
 
Why waste our time in this thread given the lack of evidence that TruthSeeker1234 has any plans to participate in/answer for what he started?
 
No, he's saying WE are the holocaust deniers.

It's a standard tinfoiler tactic. They know they don't have squat to back thier crap up with so they reduce themselves to childish nonsense like "I know you ware but what am I?".

I know that. I was intentionally making it look like a cared so little about his stupid attempt to get a rise out of us that I misread his original post.

It was actually pretty brilliant.



until i had to explain it. dah.
 
Why waste our time in this thread given the lack of evidence that TruthSeeker1234 has any plans to participate in/answer for what he started?

Perhaps we should not take him seriously at all and use this space for something more constructive, like talking about our favorite breakfast cereal?


Peanut Butter Crunch, all day, every day.
 
The orignal holocaust denial came from the rank and file people of Germany, who simply could not believe their government would do something like that. (Argument from incredulity, despite evidence). Such is the case with 9/11. People simply can not believe that officials in their government would do such a thing, despite the evidence.

Stop, just stop you pathetic idiot.

Dare to liken me to a holocaust denier again and you had better pray to which ever god you worship we never met in person.

Save your absolute garbage for naive teenagers and trash like LC.

Whatever point you tried to make is lost in this garbage, get yourself off to the gutter and wallow around there for the rest of your paranoid pathetic life.

Idiot.

(Sorry for the rant guys, but nobody needs this rubbish today of all days)
 
Perhaps we should not take him seriously at all and use this space for something more constructive, like talking about our favorite breakfast cereal?


Peanut Butter Crunch, all day, every day.
Cereal just doesn't fill me up. I need something with more substance like a good breakfast bagel. Ham, egg, & cheese on a sesame bagel. Mmmm.

Having said that, Peanut Butter Crunch is, admittedly, quite tasty for non-meal purposes.
 
I know that. I was intentionally making it look like a cared so little about his stupid attempt to get a rise out of us that I misread his original post.

It was actually pretty brilliant.



until i had to explain it. dah.

And I wanted to call him childish and rub in the fact that he's got nothing to back his garbage up.

Worked out for both of us. ;-)
 

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