Obama Punts on Keystone XL

:rolleyes:

Hey, no problemo! When this pipeline breaks and leaks oil into an aquifer used by over a million people, we'll just remind them that it's for the greater good. That sheen on your body from taking a shower is normal.

Toothbrushes and dishwashing liquid will take care of it.
 
NoahFence said:
:rolleyes:

Hey, no problemo! When this pipeline breaks and leaks oil into an aquifer used by over a million people, we'll just remind them that it's for the greater good. That sheen on your body from taking a shower is normal.

Toothbrushes and dishwashing liquid will take care of it.
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I think you may be overestimating the effect of a leak on the aquifer by a weeee little bit.
 
NoahFence said:
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/201...y-sensitive-pipeline-decision/?iref=allsearch


Well, putting it off is better than nothing so far. A pipeline from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico?

Geeze...what could possibly go wrong? :boggled:


Probably the single stupidest, most environmentally dangerous project in recent memory.
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Seriously? The country is crisscrossed with pipelines now, what makes this one so dangerous?

eta: map of existing pipelines: http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/north_america_pipelines_map.jpg
 
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WildCat said:
Seriously? The country is crisscrossed with pipelines now, what makes this one so dangerous?

eta: map of existing pipelines: http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/north_america_pipelines_map.jpg
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That is correct. There is no problem with a long pipeline that is any greater than a bunch of short pipelines.

The main problem with pipelines in cold climates are the effect of severe temperature and permafrost. The fluids in the piplines are generally warmer than the ambient temperature and that is conducted or radiated into the ground, causing melting of ice or permafrost, and sometimes cracking of structures. Mostly these problems have been fixed by better engineering, but there are still "accidents". However, far less oil is spilled by pipelines than by tankers.

The safest way to transport oil is by train or truck, but it is extremely labor intensive and much more expensive than pipelines.
 
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Hmm... they just built a bit of pipeline in my area. The biggest effect so far is that two out of the three convenience stores within 15 miles of me tore down the old stores and built new ones... or at least I think it was connected to the extra cash flow involved.

Forgive me if I'm not particularly worried about leaks. They've been doing this long enough that I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing.
 
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