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Obama Flips Off The Christian Right

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"When you have pastors and television pundits who appear to explicitly coordinate with one political party; when you're implying that your fellow Americans are traitors, terrorist sympathizers or akin to the devil himself; then I think you're attempting to hijack the faith of those who follow you for your own personal or political ends," the freshman Illinois Senator said at The Brody File.

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"For my friends on the right, I think it would be helpful to remember the critical role that the separation of church and state has played in preserving not only our democracy but also our religious practice," Obama wrote to Brody, pointing to early American leaders who fought to include the First Amendment in the Bill of Rights.

He went on, "Whatever we once were, we're no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of non-believers."
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Though, as this is the Democrats we're talking about, this may not be too surprizing. But it is still good to hear. Now if we could only convince Ron Paul that there is a separation of Church and State...
 
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If Giuliani said this, it would be news. Man bites dog. This is dog bites man with a cheerleader telling us about it.

Edited to add: Good for Obama for saying it, but I don't see what the big deal is. It was nice of him to mention non-believers as well.
 
Cool!! Now if everyone else would send them back under the rock they crawled from.........
 
corplinx said:
If Giuliani said this, it would be news. Man bites dog. This is dog bites man with a cheerleader telling us about it.

Edited to add: Good for Obama for saying it, but I don't see what the big deal is. It was nice of him to mention non-believers as well.
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I am going to assume you are calling me attractive :p .
 
That's the thing about Obama, too many of us secularists go on about Separation of church and state from an atheistic perspective but what Obama points out is that it's a good thing for the religious too.

I've been very impressed with Edwards and Obama when it comes to church/state issues. They're both very faithful but they've been very commited to church and state separation, particularly Edwards given that he appears to be the most faithful of the candidates. A refreshing alternative to the faith ramblings of Brownback.
 
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NeoRicen said:
A refreshing alternative to the faith ramblings of Brownback.
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Speaking of Brownback... He'd better be glad he's not in the top 3. If you thought you had heard enough chatter on the news about "concerns over his mormon backgroun", you would really go nuts if an Opus Dei candidate was a real contender.
 
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Speaking of Brownback... He'd better be glad he's not in the top 3. If you thought you had heard enough chatter on the news about "concerns over his mormon backgroun", you would really go nuts if an Opus Dei candidate was a real contender.
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Religious converts are especially interesting cases. He's raised Methodist, becomes born-again evangelical; what makes him go for the hierarchical, authoritarian Catholic theology? Bay Buchanan's another case, going from Catholic to Mormon. Robert Novak, former Jew, became a Catholic in the 90's. He was something over 100 years old by then, right?

It's interesting because the vast majority of religious people cleave to the faith they were raised in. What makes these people different?
 
I suppose they hooked up with someone really hot who asked them to convert.
 
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