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Not a Fatawa but read on......

Ed

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Troubling news from the Saud.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$AFRKPNP0QE44FQFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2003/12/18/wsaud18.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/18/ixnewstop.html

Saudis ban imports of female dolls and toy bears
(Filed: 18/12/2003)


Saudi Arabia has banned the importation of female dolls and teddy bears, giving merchants three months to dispose of such stock, said a state-controlled newspaper yesterday.

Prince Nayef, the interior minister, ordered the ban which was relayed around the country by the national Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said Al-Riyadh.

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Islam is certainly a wackey religion, if nothing else.
 
Sorry...I was too busy commiting mortal sins with my toy bear to read the article.
 
Although this is about France and the involvement of the Christian religion in politics, I believe it is relevant to the situation in the Middle East with Islam, and even to the U.S. and the "religious Right" which is often referred to here on JREF:

It also answers the question why Europe is not as religious as the U.S.

Such is not the natural state of men with regard to religion at the present day; and some extraordinary or incidental cause must be at work in France to prevent the human mind from following its original propensities and to drive it beyond the limits at which it ought naturally to stop. I am intimiately convinced that this extraordinary and incidental cause is the close connection of politics and religion. The unbelievers of Europe attack the Christians as their political opponents, rather than as their religious adversaries; they hate the Christian religion as the opinion of a party, much more than as an error of belief; and they reject the clergy less because they are the representatives of the Divinity than because they are the allies of authority.

In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity: cut the bonds which restrain it, and that which is alive will rise once more.

Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835.

Genius.

Good words of warning for the religious Right here in America and for the Islamic religion in the Middle East. One can easily predict the eventual outcome of their involvement in politics. The demise of their religions. The clergy in early America knew this and were wise enough to encourage separation of church and state. Modern clergy has forgotten, perhaps from an ignorance of history.
 
Good post Luke.

"The clergy in early America knew this and were wise enough to encourage separation of church and state. Modern clergy has forgotten, perhaps from an ignorance of history."

This can't be emphasized enough.
 
subgenius said:
Good post Luke.

"The clergy in early America knew this and were wise enough to encourage separation of church and state. Modern clergy has forgotten, perhaps from an ignorance of history."

This can't be emphasized enough.

Just supposing as a hypothetical that the U.S. were to go Fascist one day. I wonder how the Christian religions would feel about a nativity scene on the front lawn of the local town hall then. You might actually see them asking the ACLU to get it taken down. :D
 

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